Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by Victor P

they arent even trying tunnel warfare lol. they are just going into hospitals and murdering people.

anyway, I can recall a famous example where step 1 was to evacuate people. to Africa. we all saw what step 2 was when this Madagascar Plan was unfeasible. in this modern scenario, didnt you guys try to "evacuate" the Gazans to Congo or something? hmmm, wonder where we are in the timeline now.

That is factually incorrect. And in fact their methods are being shared with their allies already.

The Khan Yunis tunnel system has been vastly explored, and partially destroyed.


Imagine how ****ed things would be if this wasn't going extremely well.


by rafiki P

I mentioned it before, but you're really going to dislike when Trump and Polievre are the right leaning North American block. I think you're going to be shocked when those gloves come off, in terms of how it relates to this conflict.

Meloni in Italy, as all normal right-wing people are, is very pro interventionism and pro Israel (and Ukraine).

and the commies hate it, as expected, as a feature.

if people like Victor don't call you a monster you are doing something fundamental very wrong.

people like Victor are extremely useful in society. you could literally do the exact opposite of everything they advocate for and be in the top 1% of the best leaders who ever lived.


by Victor P

I dont think there has ever been a more black and white issue in my life than the genocide going in Gaza right now.

I agree there are very few black and white scenarios like the current situation in Gaza.

but I take the other side: if you don't fully agree with Israel doing the literal **** they want and think could work to kill as many Hamas people as possible by any means disregarding everything else, you are on the wrong side of history.

Hamas has to be destroyed in full at any cost, and with it, everyone who is working against that outcome.


by Trolly McTrollson P

Imagine how ****ed things would be if this wasn't going extremely well.

its springtime for Hitler vibes


by Brian James P

They are just finishing what they started in 1948. It never really stopped.

it will stop when no one on this planet will advocate for Jewish genocide anymore. until then, they have a complete moral right to defend themselves against everyone who denies their right to exist.

and we have a moral imperative to help with any mean necessary.


by Luciom P

it will stop when no one on this planet will advocate for Jewish genocide anymore. until then, they have a complete moral right to defend themselves against everyone who denies their right to exist.

and we have a moral imperative to help with any mean necessary.

even Hamas doesnt advocate for Jewish genocide. you guys are hysterical.

and no country has a right to exist. esp not Nazi Germany. and esp not Imperial Japan. and esp not Zionist Israel.


by Victor P

even Hamas doesnt advocate for Jewish genocide. you guys are hysterical.

and no country has a right to exist. esp not Nazi Germany. and esp not Imperial Japan. and esp not Zionist Israel.

looool


I understand the conundrum the Biden admin is in wrt the situation, still roflmao PRIVATELY on the NYT lol what a joke



by Victor P

its springtime for Hitler vibes

I'm not sure if you really get that reference.


by Trolly McTrollson P

I'm not sure if you really get that reference.

oh no I do. they think things are going great. but they are about to have a lot of problems. esp if they go into Lebanon and try to fight Iran.

Zionism, like all European settler Supremacist societies is based on extraction, racism, dehumanization, and ofc infinite expansion aka lebensraum.

the winning team doesnt murder white aid workers. they are getting desperate. but everyone thinks they are winning. they themselves think they are winning. but tiktoks will only get you so far when you have made it clear to millions of people that their survival depends on resisting.


by Victor P

its springtime for Hitler vibes


putin might be interested in peace


by Victor P

oh no I do. they think things are going great. but they are about to have a lot of problems. esp if they go into Lebanon and try to fight Iran.

Zionism, like all European settler Supremacist societies is based on extraction, racism, dehumanization, and ofc infinite expansion aka lebensraum.

the winning team doesnt murder white aid workers. they are getting desperate. but everyone thinks they are winning. they themselves think they are


Just so we are on the same page the society in the red is the one doing infinite expansion. Got it.


by Victor P

oh no I do. they think things are going great. but they are about to have a lot of problems. esp if they go into Lebanon and try to fight Iran.

Zionism, like all European settler Supremacist societies is based on extraction, racism, dehumanization, and ofc infinite expansion aka lebensraum.

the winning team doesnt murder white aid workers. they are getting desperate. but everyone thinks they are winning. they themselves think they are

Victor, have you ever seen a show called "The Producers"?


Three former Supreme Court judges are among the signatories of a letter warning that the UK is breaching international law by sending weapons to Israel.

They say arms sales must end due to the "plausible risk of genocide" in Gaza.

Former Supreme Court president Lady Hale is among more than 600 lawyers, academics and retired senior judges who have signed a 17-page letter saying "serious action" was needed to "avoid UK complicity in grave breaches of international law, including potential violations of the Genocide Convention."

They added that the sale of weapons and weapons systems to Israel "falls significantly short" of the government's obligations under international law.

Other signatories include former Supreme Court justices Lord Sumption and Lord Wilson, along with nine other judges and 69 KCs.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68729302


by Trolly McTrollson P

Victor, have you ever seen a show called "The Producers"?

yes. the german girl with pretzels or brats in her hair or whatever thought they were going to get a new farm in poland or whatever. and they dd for a few years! that was the sprintime for Hitler! (and Germany).

right now, its springtime for Bibi and Israel. but you know, winter is coming or something. maybe we can get a good satire about how great things are for Israel right now. I am not sure what food item they will put in their hair I guess hummus or something I dunno.

tbh, Ive never seen it but I get the point from the youtube vids.


its kind of like the this is fine meme


by Bill Haywood P

Were there any IDF casualties in the recent Al Shifa seige? Seems relevant to whether it was full of Hamas or not.

It is actually funny, because Arabic Al Jazeera was showing heavily armed militants attacking Israeli troops in the compound (probably grossly exaggerating their effectiveness); and at the same time English Al Jazeera claims it was all civilians being massacred.

It is not suprising they are altering their propaganda to fit the audience; but it is interesting. Arab audiences want to hear Hamas is putting up a good fight and killing lots of Jews, so that is what they are told. And Western audiences want to hear it is all civilians being killed, so that is what they are told.

Victor of course has his toe dipped in both propaganda pools; which is why he is simultaneously arguing the IDF took massive casualties in Al-Shifa over the 12 day battle and it wasn't a military installation and they were massacring civilians.


I dont know if Israel took massive casualties. I suspect it given they retreated.

the other 2 things are def true. ie, it wasnt a military installation and clearly Israel murdered hundreds in cold blood.


reap

Appropriated and compartmentalized into Israeli culture, a love for death can coexist with an otherwise western philosophy.


There's no corner on that market, yo wat


by Victor P

I dont know if Israel took massive casualties. I suspect it given they retreated.

the other 2 things are def true. ie, it wasnt a military installation and clearly Israel murdered hundreds in cold blood.

Everywhere there is someone fighting is a military installation


Israeli doctor on conditions at a Gaza detention camp: "Just this week, two prisoners had their legs amputated due to handcuff injuries, which unfortunately is a routine event,"

"all the patients at the hospital set up at Sde Teiman are handcuffed by all four limbs, regardless of how dangerous they are deemed. They are blindfolded and fed through a straw." Inmates are given diapers.

Haaretz.

This is inhuman.


by Dunyain P

It is actually funny, because Arabic Al Jazeera was showing heavily armed militants attacking Israeli troops in the compound (probably grossly exaggerating their effectiveness); and at the same time English Al Jazeera claims it was all civilians being massacred.

It is not suprising they are altering their propaganda to fit the audience; but it is interesting. Arab audiences want to hear Hamas is putting up a good fight and killing lots of J

One of the better posts in here in some time


by Bill Haywood P

Israeli doctor on conditions at a Gaza detention camp: "Just this week, two prisoners had their legs amputated due to handcuff injuries, which unfortunately is a routine event,"

"all the patients at the hospital set up at Sde Teiman are handcuffed by all four limbs, regardless of how dangerous they are deemed. They are blindfolded and fed through a straw." Inmates are given diapers.

Haaretz.

every day a new shocking atrocity occurs.

and every day the Zionists tell us that its actually a good thing.


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