The costs of trans visibility

The costs of trans visibility

Yesterday, Dylan Mulvaney broke her silence: https://www.tiktok.com/@dylanmulvaney/vi....

For context, this is a trans influencer who built a 10 million strong following on TikTok. She took a brand deal with budweiser to post an ad on an instagram, and the anti-trans right went absolutely ballistic, calling for a boycott, condemning the company, and to some perhaps unknowable degree it influenced that Budweiser sales dropped by a 1/4 and

. Dylan speaks more personally about the effect of the hatred on her.

What strikes me about this story is that it is just about visibility. This isn't inclusion in sports or gender-affirming care for minors, it was just that a trans person was visible. This wasn't even visibility in a TV commerical that a poor right-winger is forced to see, it was an ad on her own instagram page. We're all in our own social media algorithm influenced bubbles, but from my vantage point it really has seemed that in the last year or so things have just gotten worse for trans people and the backlash to even minor visibility is growing.

We need to do better.

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30 June 2023 at 04:48 PM
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by rickroll P

And btw in one of the other trans threads he’s literally posted his fantasy of sleeping with trans women in the event “something happens to his wife.”

wtf is wrong with you?

You missed some old point, but mostly, wtf.


are you denying that you wrote that? unlike you, I don't make things up to attack others

and what would be wrong with that anyway? you sound like a hateful bigot once again, what's wrong with a torrid affair with a trans woman between two single consenting adults?


I don't know what exactly I've shared before but I'm not completely straight if that is what you are talking about. I also don't have a "trans woman fantasy". Why the **** you are bringing this up is beyond me. Seriously wtf.

Take a break buddy.


by uke_master P

I don't know what exactly I've shared before but I'm not completely straight if that is what you are talking about. I also don't have a "trans woman fantasy". Why the **** you are bringing this up is beyond me. Seriously wtf.

Take a break buddy.

it's what you wrote, unlike you, I'm not a liar who invents fantasies about others, it's what you literally wrote yourself, that if anything happened to your wife you'd sleep with trans women


you seem to be pretty upset, that's awfully bigoted of you, there's nothing wrong with wanting to sleep with trans people


Wat


by rickroll P

And btw in one of the other trans threads he’s literally posted his fantasy of sleeping with trans women in the event “something happens to his wife.”

Post receipts or stop making such claims.


by ganstaman P

Post receipts or stop making such claims.

gansta, he has not denied it, that's a receipt right there, big chance it got nuked anyway as most of those threads were - it 100% happened and I'm not parsing through hundreds of uke master posts with the word trans in them to find it

but real rich a completely regular statement that has not been denied requires receipts for you but his litany of lies which are challenged require none - funny how that works


by GameofPwned P

You should relax with the insults. He is a professor and married with children. You are a sports betting degen who is clearly single and childless, and who needs to fly to asia to get laid. So seriously, stay on topic instead of attacking his life bc your extreme bitterness is showing


Sports betting degens aren't profitable for years on end.

That would make rickroll a sports betting crusher.


by rickroll P

gansta, he has not denied it

ffs. No, rickroll, I did not say this:

by rickroll P

you literally wrote yourself, that if anything happened to your wife you'd sleep with trans womene


or this:

he’s literally posted his fantasy of sleeping with trans women in the event “something happens to his wife.”


I'd be open to, well, a pretty wide range of sexual experiences were I not in a happy monogomous straight relationship since the age of 16, but I don't have some specific fantasy towards trans women nor would I specifically sleep with trans woman were that not the case.

Regardless I have no ****ing clue why you are bringing this up, why it would be relevant to anything, or why you kept pushing me until you got the hopefully final clarification you for some bizarre reason need. Now can you move the **** on?


so you say you didn't say it and then proceed to backtrack and say perhaps you did say it after all because that's literally how you feel (gee I wonder how I knew this, perhaps it's not new info?) but wouldn't qualify it as a fantasy so now we're talking semantics instead of facts per usual with you

case closed - thanks for half admission, real standup of you

you owe me an apology gangsta


by rickroll P

so you say you didn't say it and then proceed to backtrack and say perhaps you did say it after all

I don't understand how you're misreading things so badly, but he absolutely did not backtrack to an admission in that post. He's asked you to move on from talking about his personal life which seems reasonable to me as it's completely irrelevant and not even accurate. This conversation really needs to be done now.


by rickroll P

again, you don't seem the slightest bothered by the fact that uke has repeatedly lied about me, nor do you seem to give an f about someone here recklessly using their gimmick account to just pop in and try laying down insults out of the blue - insults which as well were unfounded - you did not reprimand that behavior nor ask (if i were to guess it's probably trolly) them to post receipts for their claims

I have no idea what you're talking about. I thought we made pretty clear that we are not very available as mods and so have to rely on post reports and randomly stumbling across posts on our own. I happened across your post and felt it was out of line. If there were other posts I should respond to, report them so that we can consider them.

Otherwise, any further discussion of this gets banned. Take it to the mod thread if you don't agree with me.


lol, i'm not on a witch hunt, I'm just lazy and fired from the hip out of context

well played gangsta, well played

it's an improvement though, you're not trying to pretend to be consistent at least


FYI given how you post regularly in here, you should have a disclaimer for when you're posting as a mod or as a regular poster - it's important to know when your pitchfork is metaphorical or not


and nice ninja deletion of my defense, i point out all your inconsistencies and lies and personal attacks against me, nowhere was i breaking forum rules and you delete them, real classy


and you left up all the personal attacks laid out on me jfc gangsta... you are horrendously biased - you should be not be modding here because you're a train on a single track heading one direction only and it's better unmodded than modded in that manner


gangsta, i'm waiting for you to delete all the personal attacks against me

please be consistent


I enjoy personal attacks, they make me feel valued. Like someone cared enough to get personal with me, makes me feel a tad special.


lol what in Sam Hill is going on here, is this guy having an episode?


by rickroll P

so you say you didn't say it and then proceed to backtrack and say perhaps you did say it after all because that's literally how you feel (gee I wonder how I knew this, perhaps it's not new info?) but wouldn't qualify it as a fantasy so now we're talking semantics instead of facts per usual with you

case closed - thanks for half admission, real standup of you

you owe me an apology gangsta

I did a search of Uke's posts with the word "wife" in them yesterday and found nothing like you're suggesting-- it looks like you just got lucky.


by Luckbox Inc P

I did a search of Uke's posts with the word "wife" in them yesterday and found nothing like you're suggesting-- it looks like you just got lucky.

most trans threads have been nuked

ie gangsta just nuked quite a few posts yesterday


Rick, all your posts on that subject looked like you just being an old man calling him a fruitcake.


by microbet P

Rick, all your posts on that subject looked like you just being an old man calling him a fruitcake.

that was not what happened at all, another reason why it's bs that gangsta deleted only bits and pieces

if he's going to delete, he should delete it in its entirety - especially that he left trolly's gimmick account with it's personal attacks up and living as well as ukes slanderous accusations against me which started the entire thing

absolute biased circus act we call moderation going on here


Lol


by washoe P




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by rickroll P

that was not what happened at all, another reason why it's bs that gangsta deleted only bits and pieces

if he's going to delete, he should delete it in its entirety - especially that he left trolly's gimmick account with it's personal attacks up and living as well as ukes slanderous accusations against me which started the entire thing

absolute biased circus act we call moderation going on here

I probably saw the posts before they were deleted. It seemed to me that you were trolling/teasing when you were calling him a bigot, which is whatever, there's trolling and teasing, but I just don't see how any of your posting worked if it didn't come from the POV that being not-straight was some kind of problem.

As far as bias goes, yeah, the conservative mods keep banning me! It does suck!

But seriously - deleting posts is dumb as hell. It accomplishes nothing good and makes threads impossible to follow.


by microbet P

But seriously - deleting posts is dumb as hell. It accomplishes nothing good and makes threads impossible to follow.

The only posts I deleted were ones which continued the same discussion after I asked for it to stop (and others responding to the discussion, like 2 posters who wrote mean things about Rick in them). There's nothing missing in the flow of this thread.


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