Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
I honestly don't get you guys. I ask politely if we can move on from this topic, not for Sklansky's sake but for the sake of the other people involved.
Then someone pops in to say, "I'm not going to repeat the details, but if I did, I can assure everyone that they would be mightily entertained."
Then another person responds with "ok, **** it, let's hear what details you found most entertaining."
Is moving on really that difficult?
i get where you're coming from the toothpaste is already squeezed out of the tube
berkey did like 2 hours of podcasting about it a year ago
it's all out there and for everyone to see and i don't think a niche thread here with a dozen active participants and maybe 30 lurkers mentioning it further is really going to drive the needle one way or another
i get where you're coming from the toothpaste is already squeezed out of the tube
berkey did like 2 hours of podcasting about it a year ago
it's all out there and for everyone to see and i don't think a niche thread here with a dozen active participants and maybe 30 lurkers mentioning it further is really going to drive the needle one way or another
Fine. It's all out there. In that case, we don't need to relive it in this forum.
it's a general chat thread. we don't need to talk about it, sure, but its the general direction an off-topic thread took.
are posters breaking forum guidelines? if not, is it your personal preference we dont talk about sklansky? why not? will someone be banned for continuing to talk about it? posts deleted?
it's a general chat thread. we don't need to talk about it, sure, but its the general direction an off-topic thread took.
are posters breaking forum guidelines? if not, is it your personal preference we dont talk about sklansky? why not? will someone be banned for continuing to talk about it? posts deleted?
Oh, let's be nice to rocco and let the topic drop for now.
it's a general chat thread. we don't need to talk about it, sure, but its the general direction an off-topic thread took.
are posters breaking forum guidelines? if not, is it your personal preference we dont talk about sklansky? why not? will someone be banned for continuing to talk about it? posts deleted?
maybe he's worried we'll suspect him as being one of those who'd gladly do things like throw acid on women just because they think it would please him
I think that if forum management tells you not to talk about specific real life situations involving private people (not talking about sklansky, rather the people purportedly involved in whatever it was), then you should stop talking about that, but it's just me
Just a respect for property rights
it's a general chat thread. we don't need to talk about it, sure, but its the general direction an off-topic thread took.
are posters breaking forum guidelines? if not, is it your personal preference we dont talk about sklansky? why not? will someone be banned for continuing to talk about it? posts deleted?
Is it against the forum rules? Will people be banned? Probably not. I guess it depends on how far it goes. I can tell you that I'm not interested in watching the toddlers of the forum try and figure out exactly where the line is so they can win some imaginary prize for tiptoeing as close to the line as possible.
I think it is a little gross to continue discussing the personal lives of two women, one of whom is dead, just because they crossed paths with David Sklansky. I guess that you and others feel differently.
And rickroll is partially correct. If a moderator suggests that people move on as a matter of basic decency, that simply encourages some people to continue. One might imagine that wouldn't be a problem with a user group as old as the 2+2 user group, but history suggests otherwise. For that reason, I'll stop with the requests and just make whatever decisions seem appropriate.
I think that if forum management tells you not to talk about specific real life situations involving private people (not talking about sklansky, rather the people purportedly involved in whatever it was), then you should stop talking about that, but it's just me
It's a fair point, and we should all strive to follow Lucio's example in this matter.
it's a general chat thread. we don't need to talk about it, sure, but its the general direction an off-topic thread took.
are posters breaking forum guidelines? if not, is it your personal preference we dont talk about sklansky? why not? will someone be banned for continuing to talk about it? posts deleted?
If you want to discuss a DS personal issue from years ago..... that has ALREADY been thoroughly detailed..... please do it in another 2+2 area.
I will ban for continuation in P&S. And for questioning my logic. I have stated it is too old a topic to continue.... plus there are other areas in 2+2 you can dig up the subject. I have said it does not belong in P&S. My motives are, it's stupid to continue and I have made a decision.
Many years ago, probably 10+ now, there was a very quietly executed erasure of any liability 2+2 may have had in the ordeal. I believe Captain Tom pressured them a great deal as well. Those who know don’t talk about it much now.
I have an original copy of the email because I was CC’ed.
So Puff Daddy is going down, or what??
Puff Daddy, Diddy, P. Diddy, Sean John Combs, worse than Epstein now? Worse than Weinstein, R. Kelly?
Sorry, I just caught up
Puffy is going down, ask Rococo, he probably knows better since he is from NY.
Its Diddygate now. He probably killed 2 Pac and Biggie a bunch of other guys incl his wife too. But now they got him for smuggling people and other crimes.
When celebrities with near infinite resources are involved, there are no guarantees.
But I wouldn't have a good feeling if I were him. This is definitely serious.
Yeah its serious. Weinstein had resources too though.
If everything turns out to be true, and the feds talked to several witnesses already, he is worse than weintsein and epstein combined.
Rococo and King Spew, on behalf of everybody, let me thank you for not just deleting the banter regarding the good old days of 2p2. 😀
Seriously, any of you guys seen this movie Butcher Baker, Nightmare Maker? It rules.
lol
It does? Tell us about it
Sounds like one of those rom-coms to me.
Just curious, has there ever been anyone who reached the top tier of hip-hop / rap success who wasn't a criminal?
