Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.


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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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pretty sure I have never said most. I am careful to precisely be imprecise and say many.


It’s literally irrelevant


by BOIDS P

standard pro-terrorist fanfiction. vic's been saying this one for ages

This is "Epstein killed himself" level of delusion yes


I don't follow Tankie Twitter. Googling showed me two sources for the "Mass Hannibal" event: Cradle, which is the youtube channel you just sent and Electronic Intifada. I have never doubted that this happened to some extent. Trying to suggest that the majority of deaths, or even a large % was from this is the misinformation. Claiming that the music festival was a military target is disinformation.

As I've stated several times, even if some Israelis were killed due to this, it is still a terrorist attack.


by Victor P

pretty sure I have never said most. I am careful to precisely be imprecise and say many.

let me know how much you'd like to bet on that šŸ˜€


Israel found 200 Resistance fighters mixed in with the dead of their own. it took them days or weeks to realize they werent actually Israelis and then they reduced the overall count of dead.

think about why that would be.


by Bluegrassplayer P

I don't follow Tankie Twitter. Googling showed me two sources for the "Mass Hannibal" event: Cradle, which is the youtube channel you just sent and Electronic Intifada. I have never doubted that this happened to some extent. Trying to suggest that the majority of deaths, or even a large % was from this is the misinformation. Claiming that the music festival was a military target is disinformation.

As I've stated several times, even if some

the Israeli guy called it a "mass hannibal" event. thats what we were discussiong. why would you google mass hannibal and expect to find anything but that one single description?

and I sent you the actual primary source recording of the guy. maybe we can someone in here who speaks Hebrew to confirm the translation.


What are you talking about regarding the description? I said the source for this story are two sources I do not follow, and nowhere else. I am not doubting this person said it.


by microbet P

The corruption of Hamas is a reason not to carpet bomb Gaza - regardless of any opinion polls you are thinking about finding.

This. Also, it's wild how Israel is leaving these Hamas leadership guys alone in peace to party in Qatar. Almost as if eliminating Hamas was never really the point!


by Trolly McTrollson P

This. Also, it's wild how Israel is leaving these Hamas leadership guys alone in peace to party in Qatar. Almost as if eliminating Hamas was never really the point!

It's like attacking Qatar requires flying over KSA which isn't exactly easy for Israel


by Bluegrassplayer P

What are you talking about regarding the description? I said the source for this story are two sources I do not follow, and nowhere else. I am not doubting this person said it.

the source is a Haaretz podcast

https://www.haaretz.co.il/digital/podcas...


by BOIDS P

let me know how much you'd like to bet on that šŸ˜€

vic

you might've missed this post


by Trolly McTrollson P

This. Also, it's wild how Israel is leaving these Hamas leadership guys alone in peace to party in Qatar. Almost as if eliminating Hamas was never really the point!

those guys arent legitimate targets anyway as they are part of the political wing and not the military wing. Hamas has a bifurcated structure so presumably they were not involved with Oct 7.


As crazy as it sounds, those guys in Qatar probably represent the more moderate elements of Hamas and are not really in charge now.


by BOIDS P

vic

you might've missed this post

I dont think we will ever know how many were killed by whom.


by grizy P

As crazy as it sounds, those guys in Qatar probably represent the more moderate elements of Hamas and are not really in charge now.

"Should we cut both legs of the hostages before we kill them or only one"

Qatari Hamas: the prophet said one is enough

Moderates!


by Victor P

I dont think we will ever know how many were killed by whom.

then how come you've been claiming that the IDF killed most of the jewish civilians on oct 7


I try to say many


by Luciom P

It's like attacking Qatar requires flying over KSA which isn't exactly easy for Israel

Israel has attacked Iran before and could attack Qatar and they have assassinated or captured people all over the world, but attacking Qatar would be a huge expansion of the war and Qatar is an (oil) ally of the US/Europe.


Germany is back to doing genocide and arresting Jews again



If Germany arrests a Jew, it's Nazi past.

If Hamas kills Jews as their Arab ancestors, allied with Nazis, did, it's resistance against oppression.

If victors writes something, it's Pallywood propaganda


by BOIDS P

then how come you've been claiming that the IDF killed most of the jewish civilians on oct 7

Victor clearly wants Jews to be rounded up and exterminated, just like in WW2.

The presence of the state is Israel is a huge impediment to this, so Victor works tirelessly here (and Iā€™d imagine elsewhere) to discredit/label Israel to get closer to his goal.


by gs3737 P

Victor clearly wants Jews to be rounded up and exterminated, just like in WW2.

The presence of the state is Israel is a huge impediment to this, so Victor works tirelessly here (and Iā€™d imagine elsewhere) to discredit/label Israel to get closer to his goal.

lol


by Victor P

Germany is back to doing genocide and arresting Jews again


Thatā€™s very very brave of them


around 30% of the people arrested for antisemitism in Germany are Jewish. .6% of the population is Jewish.



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