Omaha Journey to High Stakes

Where are all these 700-1k bb pots, on GG I have 200-300pots maybe 😃
Is it on global or the Canadian site? seems you get these pots very regularly.

Global. And yeah it’s like once every couple sessions. So basically win those pots and nothing else matters, lol.

Just got randomly disconnected and timed out in a very big pot with a very strong hand on global. Has literally never happened before. I’m honestly trying my best to keep it together rn. I don’t understand why I have to run this badly though. Might just give up on everything or get staking soon. Back to 100s for now.

Edit* BERRIBITTER gtfo this thread not interested in your toxic crap. (Posting insanely toxic **** then deleting so only I see it I guess)

Very strange to me. Was checking out Playnow considering giving it another shot. I don't want to out usernames because if they are clean players it's not fair to them. But 3 accounts sitting on this table (only 200s table running ATM) I suspected of collusion and had reported to support. Had mentioned it to another reg I guess 4 or 5 days ago now.

The strange thing to me is this is 6 new accounts (ie I don't have them tagged). Normally games that run on this site I have 4-5 players tagged, which is why it was odd to me.

So anyways I think this is odd, but keeping watch on the game I see two of the players I believe to be colluding involved in some small pot. flush runout, player checks back nut flush on the river. Believe there was a straight flush out there, so not technically the nuts. Ended up being flush over flush, no bets went in at any point. I think this is worth of reporting, especially considering that I am suspicious of this accounts already. And part of my suspicion is they don't raise each others limps, and virtually never put in bets against each other post flop when HU. But play totally different vs players I have tagged as regulars or recreational.

Get this response. "please stop spying on players". In this site, it is impossible to get HHs unless you're dealt in. And no saved HHs to actually do a check on these players. And after losing 10k in these games I'd rather actually make sure nothing weird is going on before playing.

after this, I say something along the lines of "I totally understand your policy, I know you aren't the security team and can't do anything about it right now. Can you please take down the HH that I just witnessed and forward it to them though." - after this the support rep started typing then just ended the chat and I lost the rest of the log.

I totally understand that one suspicious hand isn't evidence of collusion. But requiring me to have a HH ID, which I can only get by being dealt in on the table, is so frustrating. Seems like the 200s games on this site are dying now that there's a ton of these new accounts. Some regular type guy was also open sitting 200 at the time of writing this, but didn't sit in this 200s ring game.

Additionally, I see none of the accounts that were sitting at the 1/2 PLO ring sitting in any of the NLH games running. So if this is legit, all 6 of these accounts I don't have tagged (ie new) are just deciding to sit PLO and only PLO. Which is a little odd as well.

I have no conclusive evidence obviously, but this is just me trying to give some more context to why I'm feeling so suspicious of this site.

In this downswing I'm in,

roughly 10k from Playnow. Roughly 4k from Global. Down some large amt on Unibet as well.

Up on ACR, Pokerstars, GG.

Down negligible amounts on Betonline and iPoker.

Very frustrating for me to have the bulk of my downswing coming from a site where I'm seeing these weird things happen.

But yeah, maybe I'm just paranoid. Maybe 6 new accounts all decided to go sit PLO independently of each other, and 2 accounts that I've always seen playing together are just mass multitabling and accidentally checked back the nut flush twice. Who knows. All I know is, I probably shouldn't put more money onto this site.

you should just switch over to live poker if you're so worried about collusion/cheating. at the end of the day it will only get worse over time imo. you should look for private games or hit up your local casino. games would also be way softer, maybe even ship the remaining bankroll to live cash games at the WSOP in a month, prob not too bad of an idea.

Honestly man, thanks. I know I am paranoid of cheating 100% to the point where people won't take me seriously. But have felt like I'm going crazy until I got some evidence despite it being inconclusive at best. Having someone agree with my take (wasn't just you, once I presented this evidence some ppl in the main strat discord I'm in agreed with me) makes me feel so much better. The feeling of dumping money, being convinced something isn't right, and getting clowned on for it is just awful. Agree housebots or private bots would make sense. None of the players have chatted afaik. No idea if it's actually affecting my winrate if it's the case, as I don't know if they are card sharing or not. But yeah just never going to play there again now that I have some solid evidence I can actually base my feelings on.

On another note won 12bi today safer at 1/2 again. And didn't get disconnected in the middle of any pots. Also just gonna cut my sessions a little earlier and let the 2 hour rathole timer runout for tables I'm deep in to avoid massive flips vs whales. At least until I'm more settled bankroll wise.

I am considering some plans for WSOP - will have to see how the next couple weeks go. Also firing a bunch of the omaholic events on GG on Sunday. Will ideally find backing for bigger WSOP stuff but haven't started asking around yet, so will get on that. Would also prefer if my GF could come with me, but she's HK citizen so it might be a little awkward, I'm not sure. Might also just go for a short trip and ignore the backing / just battle some of the low stake stuff and play lowest stakes cash.

Yeah casino is soft, so are private games. Will likely transition to them at some point. Honestly right now I want to prove to myself that I'm capable in the online streets. I enjoy improving my game and playing interesting hands against capable opponents.

Yea.

I have seen these patterns before on a lot of apps/banana sites.

Small site w what looks to be a small player pool, log in day after day and its a wave of new players but the running table number never grows.

From what ive seen on some of the apps, fish bots are a real thing. Bots sharing hole cards are a real thing also.

Have to be quite careful where/what games you play in these days. But with that said no need to be hyper paranoid. If want to have a 10k month is still very doable.

You post long enough to know users cant delete their posts. The ''insanely'' toxic stuff i wrote? Who in sane mind, will read the pile of trash you are posting and will stake you? Nothing ''toxic'' Some advice you give is terrible and it seems you have a ton of leaks, technical and mindset. Invest in a mindset coach or you will never be a top player

go troll somewhere else, don't care what you have to say buddy

That is a wild response from support.

Nice tread, enoyed reading. Gl in your grind and keep posting your 'based' opinions.

Down 1k in MTTs again today. Honestly these things only seem good if you’re lucky. Min cashed a $55, everything else straight down.

Can't really beat these guys, he bet called flop lol!

by KnoxKnoxJoke P

Can't really beat these guys, he bet called flop lol!

yea, his line is atrocious but your hands a fold pre though. assuming this is like 100 or 200 rake structure you're losing around 15-18bb/100 on the preflop call.

Yeah just trying to play hands vs this guy :/ he's got 1k BBs as usual just obliterating everyone zzzz

Like ****ing clockwork! Stacked off a ton of ****ing money on the turn! VS the same whale!

Down like 3k today I can't ****ing win anything it's so unreal. This game just ****ing hates me... Time to find backing. After losing 10k on Playnow getting cheated, now getting bottom 1% run on Global... This really ****ing sucks man. Down 17k in the last month.

Deviate so much that you become the fish is not how to stack the fish.

a -0.11 ev preflop defend isn't the same as a -5bb flop blunder. VS guys like this we're printing defending this hand. This guy is vpipping 90% trying to light money on fire every time he sees a flop.

Cashed out my Global roll. Will focus on transitioning to live at this point. Have played around 500k hands in the last two years, and have been cheated too often. Cliffs of me getting cheated over the years just in case ppl want to call me paranoid again.

Party - received cheating refund for ~$300 iirc, after getting slaughtered all of a sudden in the zoom pool

Ignition - Was clear to me I was getting cheated but nobody believed it, people telling me I'm paranoid. In the next couple months, information spreads about rampant collusion and botting going on. No cheating refund.

GGpoker - Playing absurd HHs vs fish and getting slaughtered, getting min raised when I don't have **** in weird spots like I'm playing vs a superuser, call out cheating. Couple months later Moneytaker69 scandal happens.

ACR - Never was able to win there, didn't suspect cheating but the games seemed extremely hard for 200 PLO. Turns out massive bot farm was winning 15bb/100 on there. Makes a bit more sense.

Playnow - Honestly, expected this one to be legit. Until a couple months ago when I saw a bunch of new accounts playing, and went on a 50bi downswing in an extremely short timeframe. Called out cheating, got clowned for it. Found some indisputably suspicious evidence suggesting botting or collusion. Another Playnow reg reached out to me, saying that he suspected some of the same accounts I suspected.

Global - no cheating here as far as I know, have had some abrupt and catastrophic downswings on there from time to time though. Overall 10/10 site.

Unibet - highly suspicious on the 2/4 game quality, facing unusual backraises and getting slaughtered. No refund, no scandal. So for now we can say no cheating.

iPoker, Pokerstars, Betonline - nothing suspicious here that I've seen, but have put in extremely limited volume on these sites.

Lets say this is 10 sites that I play on. Out of the 10, 5 sites have had confirmed cheating issues extremely recently. Additionally, I have been suspicious of another 1. 6 out of 10 sites that I've played on I've either been suspicious of or confirmed cheating suspicions.

Given that PLO100-200 is THE most cheated stake in PLO, which has been shown time and time again by the stakes caught cheaters tend to play. I will continue to study and improve my technical and mental game. However, I'm not going to play this stake online on my own roll anymore. Going to play a ton of live pokerz, stack my bankroll back up, and jump back in at PLO500. Will potentially find online backing to aid the transition to live.

Obviously this is going to seem weird. Why try to play PLO500 if you can't beat PLO200 for a good amount? The reality is I do have a track record at 2.5/5 with my most recent backer. We believed me to be beating the games for a good clip, and my experience of the games has me believing this as well. I can't say the same for PLO200. Despite games sometimes looking amazing, I am getting obliterated over and over. In the meantime to make sure I stay sharp will continue to study a fk ton.

I wanted to grind up through the levels online while sharpening my game, but it just doesn't seem feasible at the moment sadly.

Actually, have a better idea. Will play PLO50+100s max on Global until I have enough to start playing live comfortably. Will then play live until we have ~50k USD, and transition back to online.

Or maybe I’m just overreacting, no idea. Down 17k usd that’s like 23k cad just so demoralizing to lose that much that quickly.

If I’m considering that about 8k of this downswing came from getting cheated on Playnow, and during this I had BRM issues, tilt issues, and MTT variance, I guess my downswing isn’t unreasonable or all that concerning even. No idea where im really losing the most because Playnow, Unibet and Global all untracked ugh.