Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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So Iran's official statement, fwiw, is that this is the response and they aren't planning on doing more.


by ligastar P

i didn't read the latest itt before posting

perhaps this is a telegraphed "attack" and a way for Iran to save face domestically

i just had visions of there being serious damage and loss of life in Israel and was thinking would Iran launch such an attack without a serious form of deterrence to Israel's response?

Well this guy says you are right



Iranian leaders didn't want to do this, but don't really have a choice since their base is full of violent radicals (not the main population).

Pretty sure Israel responds whether or not the damage is significant, that was the plan all along.


by Victor P

Well this guy says you are right


yeah that was my thinking right when i heard about the news

obv ISR and USA intelligence have real-time knowledge of the answer to this question


Or it could just be cope. I follow a lot of accounts that want it that way.


by microbet P

So Iran's official statement, fwiw, is that this is the response and they aren't planning on doing more.

Isn't this what they said after Suliemani?


by Victor P

Or it could just be cope. I follow a lot of accounts that want it that way.

i don't understand


by ligastar P

i don't understand

cope is like a memeterm that arose from the Ukrainian conflict. its like, when people say something they wish to be true. like dude just hopes its true bc he knows that Israel and the USA 4th Reich will reduce the whole country to rubble and rape all their women and amputate all their children like what is happening in Gaza.



hmm Im sure there are no schools and hospitals nearby


Aids


I mean, the idf nor any country should have the right or the power to kill such a high percentage of civilians just out of retaliaition or fear of one. They kind of brought on the iranian fluff with their actions.

...but the short answer is that iran cant do **** and its all flexing.


by Bluegrassplayer P

Iranian leaders didn't want to do this, but don't really have a choice since their base is full of violent radicals (not the main population).

Pretty sure Israel responds whether or not the damage is significant, that was the plan all along.

BGP, this is what I meant

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_e...

Jordanian jets shot down dozens of Iranian drones flying toward Israel, sources say

That's the future of the region. That's the path out.


by rafiki P

BGP, this is what I meant

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_e...

Jordanian jets shot down dozens of Iranian drones flying toward Israel, sources say

That's the future of the region. That's the path out.

the way out is to prop up the most evil genocidal Supremacist ethnostate since the 40s says the liberal.


by microbet P

7News Australia seems to be identifying him as Benjamin Cohen, a basically 100% Jewish name. Supposedly he said nothing while doing it.

A knife-wielding man who killed six people in a Sydney shopping centre before being shot dead has been identified by Australian police.

Joel Cauchi, 40, sent the crowded Westfield Bondi Junction complex into panic on Saturday when he began stabbing people with a long blade.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-austral...


by gs3737 P

Victor clearly wants Jews to be rounded up and exterminated, just like in WW2.

The presence of the state is Israel is a huge impediment to this, so Victor works tirelessly here (and I’d imagine elsewhere) to discredit/label Israel to get closer to his goal.

Bumped as reminder why genocide vic spends all his free time spreading blood libel.


Originally Posted by microbet
7News Australia seems to be identifying him as Benjamin Cohen, a basically 100% Jewish name. Supposedly he said nothing while doing it.

--From clicking on too many Victor links, the algorithm sends me material from accounts that are pretty much exclusively just antisemitic material. The "Benjamin Cohen" identification popped up pretty early on these accounts, probably originated from them. Are you sure 7News Australia actually went with this "info"?


no I just dont like racist Supremacists doing genocide. its called consistency. Im kinda like an anti-German.


by rafiki P

BGP, this is what I meant

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_e...

Jordanian jets shot down dozens of Iranian drones flying toward Israel, sources say

That's the future of the region. That's the path out.

It does seem that the Arab world is starting to catch on that everyone that gets into business with the Islamic Republic of Iran (Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen) ends up much worse off for the effort. And nations that dont let the IRG or its proxies operate in their countries and instead normalize with Israel end up better for it.


by Dunyain P

Originally Posted by microbet
7News Australia seems to be identifying him as Benjamin Cohen, a basically 100% Jewish name. Supposedly he said nothing while doing it.

--From clicking on too many Victor links, the algorithm sends me material from accounts that are pretty much exclusively just antisemitic material. The "Benjamin Cohen" identification popped up pretty early on these accounts, probably originated from them. Are you sure 7News Au

bruv I havent posted a thing about that dude so you can stop lying right about now. what is it with you liberals and just straight up lying?

the only thing I saw on my feed was that he was some mental guy upset about a women. I cant remember the name it gave bc I dgaf but I know it wasnt Cohen.


found it. literally the only thing in my feed about that guy.


it took a bit of scrolling considering Israel just started WW3 and thats what everyone is talking about.



ofc Bruno is correct, but the premise that liberals want to avoid war is wrong. they love war and genocide. its their favorite thing to do. ask Dun how many genocides happen.

I am kind of surprised the Iranians retaliated and fell into it but maybe they are dumb or maybe as ligastar surmised, they have some deterrence.

I do wonder if Trump would let it get to this. maybe bc he surrounded himself by psychos like Bolton and Pompeo. but on the other hand he was a coward that didnt want conflict.


by Victor P

found it. literally the only thing in my feed about that guy.

it took a bit of scrolling considering Israel just started WW3 and thats what everyone is talking about.

You understand how the algorithms work, that if I click on a bunch of links you provided here from antisemitic sources, they are going to start sending me more antisemitic material, even from sources you never posted, correct?


by Victor P

ofc Bruno is correct, but the premise that liberals want to avoid war is wrong. they love war and genocide. its their favorite thing to do. ask Dun how many genocides happen.

I am kind of surprised the Iranians retaliated and fell into it but maybe they are dumb or maybe as ligastar surmised, they have some deterrence.

I do wonder if Trump would let it get to this. maybe bc he surrounded himself by psychos like Bolton and Pompeo. but on

The IRI is EXTEMELY unpopular at home, so could just be them taking advantage of the situation to wag the dog to distract the populace. It is interesting how the revolution seems to be gaining momentum in Arab countries in the Middle East destabilized by Iran, Africa and in expat communities in the West, but massively losing steam in Iran itself.


by Dunyain P

You understand how the algorithms work, that if I click on a bunch of links you provided here from antisemitic sources, they are going to start sending me more antisemitic material, even from sources you never posted, correct?

I have a curated list. the algorithm doesnt feed me anything. I just only click on my following feed and sometimes individual accounts.

and as such, I just screenshotted the only reference I saw to that event. but I wasnt scrolling all day, maybe there was more stuff in the morning. my feed is pretty packed with Iran stuff.


by Dunyain P

There is definitely right and wrong. If I have to choose between 21st century values and 7th century, I am going to choose the former. There are a lot of places where Islamists are running the show and they all suck, and I would choose Israel over any of them.

I would also choose Israel over totalitarian monstrosities like Russia and North Korea. It really isn't that hard for me to pick a middle of the road country that is far from perf

Big picture, we're pretty close. I'm just not excusing this slaughter of 30,000+ people and displacement of 2 million because Israel is generally better than every Muslim state. Again, if for any other reason, the blowback will be devastating.


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