Fringe conspiracy containment thread
2) I'm sure there were blockades to keep people from entering parts of front street so more people didn't die. I don't know specifically what happened beyond what Fish's (I've talked to Fish plenty, so next time I see him I'll ask him directly, it's a pretty chopped video) report in your video, but they obviously weren't intentionally blocking people in. 3) As far as barbed wire now, I'm sure there are still things to steal, but it's also
It's a proven fact that the cars were blocked from escaping, which is how a lot of people died. This doesn't only come from your friend Fish who was interviewed it comes from just about every survivor. There are countless interviews with people shocked as to why they were blocking the escape routes with no explanation why. And it's not just barbed wire, on HRE's video from yesterday, there are miles and miles of fence covered with a black tarp so no one can see in. They also used heavy yellow iron equipment to move large boulders on a lookout point on a mountain that overlooks the city so no one can park there anymore to look down on the valley. Since you know this guy Fish, why don't you ask him what they're hiding there and why our government (this operation is lead by FEMA, the national guard there who are blocking the road are answering to them only) is doing this
Our president who went there to visit compared this to a small kitchen fire in his house and joked that he almost lost his corvette. That was a stab in the back to everyone involved. It was a disgrace (as usual).
Since we're in the study game... I have two for you.
40% of deaths could have been prevented from Covid-19, if the Trump administration took the virus more seriously, didn't spread misinformation, and took better policy positions:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021...
Over 230k preventable covid-19 deaths in the US if people even had 1 covid-19 vaccine shot:
So all it takes for you to believe something is a website? See how easy it is to control people?
It's not hard to see what's going on, but just in case, cliffs: Biden is a front for the global nazies who are all hidden (in plain sight) behind klaus schwab and the WEF along with their cohorts over at the CDC, FBI, CIA, DOJ, FEMA and the UN who are doing this in plain sight, but everyone is too programmed to hate trump as much as possible (who's also a front fwiw, he's basically a nothing in this war it's not all about him either but he's definitely on humanities side) or too closed minded to ever think they're being lied to.
The fires that caused all the smoke in NYC all started at the exact same time over hundreds of miles of forrest in Canada. How on earth does that happen naturally? But everyone wants to turn a blind eye because they believe "of course no one would do that on purpose" which was probably so they can start their plans for climate lockdowns. I'm not a conspiracy theorist I'm just stating the facts that need to be answered of which everyone wants to turn a blind eye to.
They're also currently preparing for a new pandemic with a new variant. Also, FEMA just emailed the people involved in the Maui disaster to not post any pictures of the disaster on social media. What are they hiding?
Your president doesn't care at all about anybody he's supposed to be serving, because he's not serving us he's serving his masters who control him along with many other leaders of other countries. If they continue to get their way, you will all be living in a climate crisis where you won't be allowed to travel more than 15 minutes from your home and forced to eat bugs and artificially grown foods. Bon appetito.
You're wrong. Prior to the 1993 gulf war, the US hadn't been involved in a major conflict since Vietnam, and that needed a fake attack to sell it to the American public.
I said directly or indirectly .
Ok so they wanted a full war for what ?
To sell arms ?
Did u ever heard of Iran-contra scandal for example ?
That’s post Vietnam war .
The U.S. don’t need to be personally implicated in a war to sell arms .
Especially an invasion war that last like 3 weeks in Irak ?
FWIW the US had to say (lie) WMD to go in , which was a much more bigger threat then 9/11….
So no idea why u think 9/11 was needed shrug .
It’s ok to believe like u do the US needs to kill its own citizens to go to war , I personally don’t ….
They can find or create other “US problems” to justify a war.
Even using black ops to works for their ennemies I figure .
And the worst is , to believes hundreds “patriots” would all be for it and still to this day be silent ?
Way too much “ if” to my taste when far more easier explanations exist . .
I think the definition of "war" has evolved with the expansion of the presidential war power. Is it true we had no congressionally declared wars after Korea? Yes, but we were involved in the military use of force for extended time that would qualify as "major conflict" at least a half dozen times, including in Vietnam. I don't know that war was declared in the Gulf given its duration.
+1
9/11 was def beneficial for people like Bush, Biden, Hillary, etc. They got their wars, the patriot act/mass surveillance, etc.
Basically they gained a lot of power and got to loot trillions from the public.
Doesn't mean they did it though. It was just a stroke of good fortune that they took advantage of.
Seems to be a big theme in conspiracy thought that if a person takes advantage of something, they must have orchestrated it.
Do you ever get the feeling that what actually happened on 9/11 doesn't matter in a 9/11 conspiracy discussion?
The official narrative of what happened on 9/11 is probably the most implausible conspiracy theory of them all.
I enjoy conspiracy theories. It good campfire marshmallow toastin fun that brings folks together for some laughs.
Luckbox, have you been indulging in the coca today?
So how are the sufferers of severe mongolism spinning world events?
9/11 was def beneficial for people like Bush, Biden, Hillary, etc. They got their wars, the patriot act/mass surveillance, etc.
Basically they gained a lot of power and got to loot trillions from the public.
Doesn't mean they did it though. It was just a stroke of good fortune that they took advantage of.
Seems to be a big theme in conspiracy thought that if a person takes advantage of something, they must have orchestrated it.
it's like that time that guy flopped a set of 3s vs my aces, he obviously rigged the deck to benefit from it
it's like that time that guy flopped a set of 3s vs my aces, he obviously rigged the deck to benefit from it
I busted my biggest ever buy-in live tourney (only 1k EUR lol, but I've played like 5 live tourneys in my life) with a flopped set of 3s in the SB. UTG flopped a set of queens. GG.
my favorite part of these conspiracies of all powerful entities that operate in the shadows but control everything is that if they existed and were capable of such things, they'd just cut out the middle man and do what they actually wanted to do in the first place
can you imagine being able to pull off 9-11, fool the entire world, keep hundreds of people involved quiet and complacent in the coverup and yet not be able to just directly invade Iraq
the paradox of the "deep state" is that if there was a deep state that's as powerful as claimed then they wouldn't need to hide in the shadows and more importantly, they would prevent some anti deep state crusader like trump from ever being in a position to run for president in the first place, let alone win
my favorite part of these conspiracies of all powerful entities that operate in the shadows but control everything is that if they existed and were capable of such things, they'd just cut out the middle man and do what they actually wanted to do in the first place
You are too realist to be true on both account -> for them !
I never believed the USG was behind 9/11, but lol at the alphabet soup not knowing it was gonna happen
Broke-brains, bless their hearts.
Islam out there targeting the infidel a couple weeks ago in Russia. Guess they permitted that to happen. the mooslims being relatively incapable camel jockeys is the inference
my favorite part of these conspiracies of all powerful entities that operate in the shadows but control everything is that if they existed and were capable of such things, they'd just cut out the middle man and do what they actually wanted to do in the first place
can you imagine being able to pull off 9-11, fool the entire world, keep hundreds of people involved quiet and complacent in the coverup and yet not be able to just directly invade
What do you think is more important in getting to the bottom of 9/11: the actual events that happened that day or this idea that you have about the world?
my favorite part of these conspiracies of all powerful entities that operate in the shadows but control everything is that if they existed and were capable of such things, they'd just cut out the middle man and do what they actually wanted to do in the first place
can you imagine being able to pull off 9-11, fool the entire world, keep hundreds of people involved quiet and complacent in the coverup and yet not be able to just directly invade
We had quite a powerful deep state in Italy for a while that actually organized (or allowed even when it could prevent them) terrorist activities, infiltrated groups and caused them to become more agitated (to justify repression) and so on.
The reason usually is to achieve political results, be they votes for or against specific parties or laws being discussed and/or popular consensus.
Doesn't need to be thought as something "omnipotent" nor monolithic (different people in the deep state might have different goals).
But I never understood why the infeasibility claim is made for the idea in the USA, when at least one g7 country (Italy) had exactly that for decades, and with inferior technology.
We had quite a powerful deep state in Italy for a while that actually organized (or allowed even when it could prevent them) terrorist activities, infiltrated groups and caused them to become more agitated (to justify repression) and so on.
The reason usually is to achieve political results, be they votes for or against specific parties or laws being discussed and/or popular consensus.
Doesn't need to be thought as something "omnipotent" nor
So, you know when I mentioned that I'd lost with a set of 3s? That was in the "IPT". I think that stands for "Italian Poker Tour". So, yeah, Are-Tay, you got me. So rigged.
But I never understood why the infeasibility claim is made for the idea in the USA, when at least one g7 country (Italy) had exactly that for decades, and with inferior technology.
It doesn't need to make rational sense only to hold the worldview that western governments aren't evil together.
lol at italy being run by the deep state, even harder lol at italy g7
not fully run by the deep state, but the deep state (actual "deviated" secret services and so on) did a lot of stuff in the 70s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy_o...
The strategy of tension is most closely identified with the Years of Lead in Italy from 1968 to 1982, wherein far-left Marxist groups, far-right neo-fascist extra-parliamentary groups and state intelligence agencies performed bombings, kidnappings, arsons, and murders
I mean when even wiki tells you that explicitly and it isn't even flagged as controversial, it's hard to deny it
Later , we have decent proofs of a deal between the deep state and the mafia to stop mafia terrorist attacks (which were very common in the early 90s)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-Mafi...
In 1964 the deep state organized a coup that didn't materialize only because the government (which was the first leftist one since ww2, with socialists as ministers) lost a vote of confidence, and the new one was more moderate. But the Carabinieri were deployed to take control of RAI buildings in Milan and Rome among other things
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_Solo
Piano Solo was an envisaged plot for an Italian anti-communist coup in 1964 requested by then president of the Italian Republic, Antonio Segni. It was prepared by the commander of the Carabinieri, Giovanni de Lorenzo [it], in the beginning of 1964 in close collaboration with the Italian secret service SIFAR, CIA secret warfare expert Vernon Walters, then chief of the CIA station in Rome William King Harvey, and Renzo Rocca [it], director of the Gladio units within the military secret service SID. It was named Solo (Italian for "alone" or "only") because it was supposed to be directed only by the Carabinieri.[1]
In those years, between the 60s and the 90s, Italy was bouncing around as the 4th/5th/6th economy in the world, so i am not sure what you mean with "lol at italy g7"
today i learned that anyone you don't like or any bad actors are all the deep state
mafia = deep state lol
you troll too hard son, you need to find some more balance
today i learned that anyone you don't like or any bad actors are all the deep state
mafia = deep state lol
you troll too hard son, you need to find some more balance
Man have you read? it's about secret services meeting mafia guys to craft a deal without the elected government approval.
Mafia was mainly interested on house arrest for old mafia bosses, spouse visitation rights and so on and on, which the state removed with the "41-bis", an hyper-harsh prison regime which strips mafiosos of most prisoners rights
