The costs of trans visibility
Yesterday, Dylan Mulvaney broke her silence: https://www.tiktok.com/@dylanmulvaney/vi....
For context, this is a trans influencer who built a 10 million strong following on TikTok. She took a brand deal with budweiser to post an ad on an instagram, and the anti-trans right went absolutely ballistic, calling for a boycott, condemning the company, and to some perhaps unknowable degree it influenced that Budweiser sales dropped by a 1/4 and
. Dylan speaks more personally about the effect of the hatred on her.
What strikes me about this story is that it is just about visibility. This isn't inclusion in sports or gender-affirming care for minors, it was just that a trans person was visible. This wasn't even visibility in a TV commerical that a poor right-winger is forced to see, it was an ad on her own instagram page. We're all in our own social media algorithm influenced bubbles, but from my vantage point it really has seemed that in the last year or so things have just gotten worse for trans people and the backlash to even minor visibility is growing.
We need to do better.
Thank goodness for these forum rules where you can't say it's Black people's fault so you have to beat around the bush and imply it and then you get banned for calling that person racist, even if they say they don't mind being called racist!
some countries are allowing kids to get their bodies permanently modified WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT if they find a single licensed physician who agrees .
how is this even possible? how are your allowing it? why aren't you treating the people proposing and enacting this as monsters incompatible with civil society?
this isn't a nuanced topic. it's a topic that 30 years ago was 99-1
can I call every single person who doesn't think this is a monstrous development a radical? this isnnot rethoric, this is people being ****ed up in the head by marxism
The guy who calls immigrants from Africa "garbage people" is calling me a racist. Haha so funny.
see micro, he said only 3/5 of the problem are black people!
Oh, you said "that's very racist of you" instead of "you're a racist". I guess that gets by the brilliant moderators and their rules.
You're so good at following the rules Luciom. Not surprising given your political leanings.
some countries are allowing kids to get their bodies permanently modified WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT if they find a single licensed physician who agrees .
how is this even possible? how are your allowing it? why aren't you treating the people proposing and enacting this as monsters incompatible with civil society?
marxism
Because the reality is that this is not the norm. Can you find a one off case, maybe. I actually doubt you can find even one minor getting a surgery without parental consent. But you believing this is the norm, just proves how ridiculous you are.
I am interested in anti Marxism as a core moral value.
I consider Marxism with a huge margin the biggest self-made (human) threat to humanity ever.
current iterations of Marxism are often about trans issues. it can be other stuff at other times. But they choose what to deal with and we have to react.
There is no more moral endeavour than to fight Marxism is you are a humanist. even if you have kids like I do, there is nothing more important fo
If you legitimately believe that "Marxism" is the biggest threat to humanity, then I don't think you're paying very close attention to anything else lol. "Cultural Marxism" is little more than a vastly oversimplified and tremendously flawed narrative wielded by political actors in pursuit of their own self-interest, though every so often you'll see one who is actually stupid enough to entirely believe what they're saying
There's effectively no "cultural Marxism" in Russia, but you would truly have to be king of the dipsh*ts to think that anyone would have a higher quality of life in Russia vs the US or Canada, all else being equal
And imagine calling yourself a "humanist" when you seem to almost wholly lack the capacity to have empathy for anyone who isn't enough like you
I admit I care very little for the quality of life of the 0.1 or less of humanity when the 99.9% is put at risk. I think it's morally horrific to discuss trans issue more than 10 minutes every couple of years.
but Marxists want to push them every day, so we have to defend ourselves from Marxist aggression
This is by far the most braindead thing I've seen you say lol. How are we supposed to learn more about gender dysphoria if people are silenced from talking about it?
Many trans-identifying people also face legitimate discrimination in employment and healthcare (and sometimes even in housing and education), which is a huge problem for their quality of life which needs to be addressed. I'm not even talking about being denied HRT or anything like that, I'm just talking about them being treated poorly because they might very significantly not conform to sex stereotypes. So many people are actually even eager to treat such people poorly. But of course you wouldn't even give that so much as a passing thought, because "Marxism bad" lol. As long as anyone who markedly doesn't conform to sex stereotypes gets treated like **** by a significant contingent of society, then you're gonna keep hearing people talk about it bud. Much of what people mean when they refer to "trans rights" is exactly that
I've already alluded to the fact that there are, imo, definitely problems with regard to the current narrative around gender dysphoria, but people like you are doing just as, if not more damage to gender dysphoric children and adults (and perhaps even society in general) than the people pushing the greatly oversimplified "gender identity" narrative. I truly hope that none of your children ever have to deal with gender dysphoria, not only because of the tremendous psychological pain it causes, but because you're clearly extremely ill-equipped to deal with it
Because the reality is that this is not the norm. Can you find a one off case, maybe. I actually doubt you can find even one minor getting a surgery without parental consent. But you believing this is the norm, just proves how ridiculous you are.
the ****? like 10 countries allow blockers and hormones and surgery without parent approval over 14-15.
are you at the " no wait it isn't actually happening" stage of delusion? your political allies allowed for that. your friends. the people you defend in this thread
the ****? like 10 countries allow blockers and hormones and surgery without parent approval over 14-15.
are you at the " no wait it isn't actually happening" stage of delusion? your political allies allowed for that. your friends. the people you defend in this thread
Find one example of a minor, age 14-15, getting reconstructive genital surgery without parental consent. Just one, out of the 10 ****ing countries.
If you legitimately believe that "Marxism" is the biggest threat to humanity, then I don't think you're paying very close attention to anything else lol. "Cultural Marxism" is little more than a vastly oversimplified and tremendously flawed narrative wielded by political actors in pursuit of their own self-interest, though every so often you'll see one who is actually stupid enough to entirely believe what they're saying
There's effectively
Marxism has an oppressor vs oppressed narrative/explanation based on class
Cultural Marxism is a term used to explain a massive portion of the current left. It's an oppressor vs oppressed narrative but now it's not based on class but identity. Sex, race, sexuality, etc
The reason we have biological males making a mockery of female sports is because trans rank higher than females in oppression.
lol
Yes? At least for the purpose of being allowed to work.
And that's not even some kind of radical libertarianism, this was in "capitalism and freedom" by Friedman.
You know the basic idea of being allowed to do anything among consenting adults? Applied to selling your time doing, well, anything as well
You misunderstood me. In Libertariantopia, the entire medical profession would be heavily dependent on licensing.
People would still not be allowed to lie about credentials or anything else.
If you like current credentialism you can still only go to people who passed a certain exam held by certain institutions and so on, in my model.
But you can't tell others who they can go to , and pay, for whatever they want done on their body as consenting adults.
I don't like current credentialism, but treating gender dysphoria to the will of the patient of sound mind isn't a problem with current credentialism.
the government ****ing pays for healthcare roflmao, if you start with "it's unconstitutional for the state to ever put a dollar in healthcare" the we could have a point
It's actually not unconstitutional. Congress holds the power of the purse. Declaring healthcare as a right would require an amendment, but funding healthcare isn't unconstitutional. Would the government fund healthcare in a voluntaryist society? No, but there would also be no authoritarian restrictions on sex changes and the like.
I also wouldn't call Milton Friedman a radical capitalist. He supported South American autocrats. I think you were thinking of Murray Rothbard.
It's actually not unconstitutional. Congress holds the power of the purse. Declaring healthcare as a right would require an amendment, but funding healthcare isn't unconstitutional. Would the government fund healthcare in a voluntaryist society? No, but there would also be no authoritarian restrictions on sex changes and the like.
The constitutionality part was always inside the libertarian model; ie IF the gvmnt can't spend money on hcare THEN you can apply libertarian principles later on. If the gvmnt spends on hcare then taxpayers have a right to decide what exactly is being covered or not and why, and delegating that to the experts who cash in that money is a way to go bankrupt.
some countries are allowing kids to get their bodies permanently modified WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT if they find a single licensed physician who agrees .
100% made up, maybe not by you, but by someone, years ago, and debunked thoroughly.
I've been reading **** on the internet for 30 minutes and I've seen 4 just blatantly made up stories pushing outrage.
Saw a story on Facebook saying Lia Thomas lost and had to give up her medals to the 'beautiful' Riley Gaines
Saw a story on twitter about Biden creating pamphlets in Mexico encouraging illegal Mexicans to vote
Saw a stupid ****ing post on twitter that stated Switzerland required its citizens to own guns
All just blatantly made up Right Wing propaganda. I legitimately see more made up **** than truth from you guys. Its exhausting.
Exhausting
The constitutionality part was always inside the libertarian model; ie IF the gvmnt can't spend money on hcare THEN you can apply libertarian principles later on. If the gvmnt spends on hcare then taxpayers have a right to decide what exactly is being covered or not and why, and delegating that to the experts who cash in that money is a way to go bankrupt.
What the **** does this even mean? The Constitution is simply man made law. That law could allow for govt to spend money on healthcare. Regardless, it has mechanisms to be changed whether you want govt sponsored healthcare or don’t. It you don’t want govt sponsored healthcare you can even pass such laws with out invoking any constitutional changes.
Your arguments about the constitutionality of healthcare, medical licenses and parental rights is simply nonsense.
