Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by Trolly McTrollson P

We're invading Lebanon too? Oh boy!

http://unscr.com/en/resolutions/doc/1701

That's UN resolution 1701, stating Hezbollah is not go South of the Litani River. It's a clean easy line to keep things from going literally insane.

As of Christmas basically, Hezbollah had launched almost 600 attacks from there, it's near 1000 surely by now. So 1000 attacks including things like guided antitank missiles, and drone attacks like this yesterday:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/7-hurt-2-s...


14 troops, 4 civilians wounded in Hezbollah drone attack on northern border town

Trolly do you know how long your country/state would wait before hitting that in force? I'll give you a hint, they wouldn't wait for 600-1000 attacks and evacuate the civilian population into hotels for 6 months. You guys have the immense privilege of not understanding what it might be like to live like this . But Israel doesn't have to accept Hezbollah attacking them from there 100's of times, and so they will indeed go get those guys. Same as you would expect your government to do to protect your kids in your neighborhood.


Israeli minister Ben Gvir calls for exec...

"The death penalty for terrorists is the right solution to the incarceration problem."

This from Ben Gvir, the sitting security minister.


Google fires a bunch of people who had a sit-in protesting the use of Google technology facilitating genocide and has officially changed their motto to "**** it we're evil"


Terrorists, not prisoners.

Plenty of countries have the death penalty for terrorists.


google stuff is amazing but unsurprising.

Columbia stuff is amazing but unsurprising.

canceling that USC valedictorians speech bc she is Muslim is actually surprising.


lol because she is Muslim.

Bc she spreads hate and lies. She’s just like you vic, only she’s intelligent.


by gs3737 P

Terrorists, not prisoners.

Plenty of countries have the death penalty for terrorists.

right, you know who else was executed de rigueur? terrorist Jews and partisans in the 40s.


by gs3737 P

lol because she is Muslim.

Bc she spreads hate and lies. She’s just like you vic, only she’s intelligent.

you want to link to any of this hate and lies she has spread?

I dont think you can. in fact, in this case I think you are straight up lying and not just your usual misinformed self.


by Victor P

you want to link to any of this hate and lies she has spread?

I dont think you can. in fact, in this case I think you are straight up lying and not just your usual misinformed self.

Considering you’re the biggest liar I’ve ever have the misfortune of interacting with…no.


and yet you are never able to point out any of these assumed lies. just embrace your inner warmongering genocidal Zionism and start posting like the rest of this thread that cant contain their glee for burning alive, burying alive, dismembering, torturing, squashing with tanks and bulldozers, raping, executing, and starving children.

time to pivot from arguing about facts which will never make you look good and pivot to the new Zionist idea that genocide is good actually.


Of course, you don’t consider calling for the end of the state is Israel to be hate. That’s just a normal day for people like you.


by Victor P

and yet you are never able to point out any of these assumed lies. just embrace your inner warmongering genocidal Zionism and start posting like the rest of this thread that cant contain their glee for burning alive, burying alive, dismembering, torturing, squashing with tanks and bulldozers, raping, executing, and starving children.

time to pivot from arguing about facts which will never make you look good and pivot to the new Zionist idea

Show me one post where I expressed glee for any of the above.

If you can’t, I’ll just assume this is more lies from you.


by rafiki P


Trolly do you know how long your country/state would wait before hitting that in force?

I don't have to imagine it, kid; I lived through America's 20-year revenge campaign of military adventurism. It gave us nothing, made no one safer, trashed our international standing, and led to countless corpses worldwide.

But hey, maybe annexing Lebanon is going to pan out for Israel, we'll see.


Also, what is this "you guys" nonsense? You're in Toronto.


by gs3737 P

lol because she is Muslim.

Bc she spreads hate and lies. She’s just like you vic, only she’s intelligent.

Yeah she effectively just posted more or less the Vic playbook I guess. I can see why a school might find that spicy. Can't say I have a take on the choice without all the info.

In Canada right now we have our own version on the reverse side. https://nationalpost.com/opinion/york-un...

York University faculty group recommends defining support of Israel as 'racism'


by Trolly McTrollson P

I don't have to imagine it, kid; I lived through America's 20-year revenge campaign of military adventurism. It gave us nothing, made no one safer, trashed our international standing, and led to countless corpses worldwide.

But hey, maybe annexing Lebanon is going to pan out for Israel, we'll see.

Trolly you didn't raise a child in a war zone. You can't know what it's like. Taking the fight to someone thousands of miles away is nothing like having the fight on your doorstep every day. These things are not the same. Your home town is not evacuated right now.


by Trolly McTrollson P


Also, what is this "you guys" nonsense? You're in Toronto.

It's not just that I'm not in Toronto. It's that you have no sense at all of what's at stake in Israel for me. I don't share that (and with good reason).


by rafiki P

Yeah she effectively just posted more or less the Vic playbook I guess. I can see why a school might find that spicy. Can't say I have a take on the choice without all the info.

In Canada right now we have our own version on the reverse side. https://nationalpost.com/opinion/york-un...

York University faculty group recommends defining support of Israel as 'racism'

USC didn’t do this “bc she is Muslim.”

Genocidal, pathlogical liar vic knows that, but he can’t stifle his hatred. So he continues to lie.


by rafiki P

Trolly you didn't raise a child in a war zone. You can't know what it's like. Taking the fight to someone thousands of miles away is nothing like having the fight on your doorstep every day. These things are not the same. Your home town is not evacuated right now.

lol, you don't know the first thing about me or my life, not that any of it is relevant. I don't have to witness children starving in a warzone firsthand to realize it sucks.


by Trolly McTrollson P

I don't have to imagine it, kid; I lived through America's 20-year revenge campaign of military adventurism. It gave us nothing, made no one safer, trashed our international standing, and led to countless corpses worldwide.

But hey, maybe annexing Lebanon is going to pan out for Israel, we'll see.


Also, what is this "you guys" nonsense? You're in Toronto.

For American interests I would say the last 20 years worked out pretty good.

Using pretty much any metric you could think of, if you asked me to rank how America did during the last 20 years versus predicting the next 20, I would snap bet the previous 20.

If "look how much the last 20 years sucked for America" is your argument for why Israel shouldn't try to defeat the militia parked on their border attacking them, then I am going to go ahead and say I am unpersuaded by said argument.


by rafiki P

Yeah she effectively just posted more or less the Vic playbook I guess. I can see why a school might find that spicy. Can't say I have a take on the choice without all the info.

In Canada right now we have our own version on the reverse side. https://nationalpost.com/opinion/york-un...

York University faculty group recommends defining support of Israel as 'racism'

by gs3737 P

USC didn’t do this “bc she is Muslim.”

Genocidal, pathlogical liar vic knows that, but he can’t stifle his hatred. So he continues to lie.

and yet neither of you have shown a single think she has said.

just baseless assertions.

at least Dun bases his Musim hatred on some **** that happened thousands of years ago.


by Trolly McTrollson P

lol, you don't know the first thing about me or my life, not that any of it is relevant. I don't have to witness children starving in a warzone firsthand to realize it sucks.

I realize you've never lived in a place under constant attack. I realize that much Trolly. Anyone who's grown up under armed guard definitely doesn't find it outrageous to try to get a sense of normal back via your defence forces putting it all on the line.

Btw Hezbollah are tough hombres. I may dislike them, but I respect them. They're well trained, well armed, and well funded. Fearless too.


by rafiki P

I realize you've never lived in a place under constant attack. I realize that much Trolly.

lol neither have you


by Victor P

and yet neither of you have shown a single think she has said.

just baseless assertions.

at least Dun bases his Musim hatred on some **** that happened thousands of years ago.

I saw her social. It's just so much like in here that at this point I'm basically saying "that's it?"

I'm so conditioned to life in here that her reposts don't really bother me. Par for the same course.


by Victor P

and yet neither of you have shown a single think she has said.

just baseless assertions.

at least Dun bases his Musim hatred on some **** that happened thousands of years ago.

wtf is a “single think?”


by gs3737 P

Show me one post where I expressed glee for any of the above.

If you can’t, I’ll just assume this is more lies from you.

Still waiting on this…


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