ex-President Trump

ex-President Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at low-info Boomers like my religions aunts. I have two questions:

a) Is anyone here who supports Trump bothered by lies like this?

b) Does anyone know what he's even talking about here? Like is there some grain of truth that he's embellishing on bigly?

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by Luciom P

First world country ffs. First world country.

First world democracies I wrote. Canada, Australia, UK, Italy, France, USA, west Germany, you know?

FIRST WORLD COUNTRIES

There's hardly been any political violence in those countries since WW2, but fine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_C...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_V...


by microbet P

There's hardly been any political violence in those countries since WW2, but fine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_C...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_V...

Hardly any political violence? 2017 isn't rightwing, it wasn't political.

And the BLM riots alone are a lot more than any rightwing political violence since 1946.

Then add all the student riots, and all the other racial riots


You're also a racist Luciom, so you probably don't recognize the rich modern country of Saudi Arabia as first world or right wing, but it is both and they commit lots of political violence.


by Luciom P

Compared the documented history of violence after WW2 in first world democracies which is what I did.

There is no comparison, basically all group violence was and is leftist.

And what you call rightwing pre WW2 like fascism and Nazism was leftist as well. Rightwing: supremacy of the individual, a deep hatred of the state and the collective at most, a deep distrust normally, individual freedom is the most important value you die for.

Leftist: t

If you think Nazism was leftish u should stop immediately to speak about what is left and right ….

Is the KKK leftish too ?


by Luciom P

Hardly any political violence? 2017 isn't rightwing, it wasn't political.

And the BLM riots alone are a lot more than any rightwing political violence since 1946.

Then add all the student riots, and all the other racial riots

2017 LV was a Trump nut. Political.

19 people died in the George Floyd protests/riots. 168 died in the OKC bombing.


You would need something like 800 occasions since 1946 of thousands of rightwing extremists burning neighborhoods, police cars, local businesses, because they hate blacks just to make even with leftist racial riots, for the USA.

Then 500-600 massive rightwing student protests clashing with police because they want to ban abortion or whatever, occupying campuses and so on.

It never happened, it's not even comparable.


by microbet P

It's a really dumb definition of left and right and it's ironic because he's constantly advocating for government/collective action.

+1


by Luciom P

You would need something like 800 occasions since 1946 of thousands of rightwing extremists burning neighborhoods, police cars, local businesses, because they hate blacks just to make even with leftist racial riots, for the USA.

Then 500-600 massive rightwing student protests clashing with police because they want to ban abortion or whatever, occupying campuses and so on.

It never happened, it's not even comparable.

Being a fascist you are counting property crime and civil disobedience as violence. The right wingers tend to go straight to murder. Usually unapologetically.


by microbet P

Being a fascist you are counting property crime and civil disobedience as violence. The right wingers tend to go straight to murder. Usually unapologetically.

I shouldn't waste time with someone deranged enough not to count burning police cars for political reasons as political violence, it's on me.


Of ****ing course left wingers disobey the police more often. People who call themselves libertarians are usually full of **** bootlickers.


by Luciom P

I shouldn't waste time with someone deranged enough not to count burning police cars for political reasons as political violence, it's on me.

I think you might not count shooting people as violence because it seems quite possible that you are a complete sociopath.


by d2_e4 P

Do you think that if you continue to repeat your invented definitions they will eventually persuade someone here?

The definitions are certainly strange. One might say they are radically strange.


Right-wing conspiracy theorist self-immolates outside of the courthouse for trump’s trial

Womp womppp


by FreakDaddy P

Intimidation of justices for any reason should be condemned. Do you find it all interesting that one group of people are intimidating justices for people's rights, the planet's health, stopping war, basically moral positions where desperate people are doing desperate acts (again not acceptable).

Yes, it is interesting why some politicians would encourage political violence or why one would be violent for political reasons, but like you said none of what we've seen in the US justifies their actions.

People ITT trying to suggest political violence isn't almost completely by the left are bringing up examples from almost 100 years ago, people from other countries, a few lone morons, some lone moron who killed but wasn't killing for political reasons or some combination of those as if that doesn't prove me right that political violence is almost uniquely left in the US.


by Didace P

The definitions are certainly strange. One might say they are radically strange.

It is not radical in Italy to consider Mussolini leftwing, given he was a very prominent socialist and wrote like socialists did and campaigned on socialist topics in socialist ways and socialist language.

Ofc it's not radical on the Italian right. The left tries everything to disassociate from Their former member


by bahbahmickey P

Yes, it is interesting why some politicians would encourage political violence or why one would be violent for political reasons, but like you said none of what we've seen in the US justifies their actions.

People ITT trying to suggest political violence isn't almost completely by the left are bringing up examples from almost 100 years ago, people from other countries, a few lone morons, some lone moron who killed but wasn't killing for pol

In the US, in France, in the UK, in Italy


by StoppedRainingMen P

Right-wing conspiracy theorist self-immolates outside of the courthouse for trump’s trial

Womp womppp

I cant imagine how deranged someone must be to do that. Painful death and god forbid you survive. Didn't some nut do it over Palestine a short while ago


by lozen P

I cant imagine how deranged someone must be to do that.

You mean being a right winger? Yeah, I never got it either.


by lozen P

I cant imagine how deranged someone must be to do that. Painful death and god forbid you survive. Didn't some nut do it over Palestine a short while ago

Even the guardian for now claims it was just a deranged conspiracy theorist not necessarily a rightwing one .

He had pamphlets about education being a mob front, not a usual conspiracy theory on the right

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024...

Maybe he was rightwing but we don't know yet


by bahbahmickey P


People ITT trying to suggest political violence isn't almost completely by the left are bringing up examples from almost 100 years ago, people from other countries, a few lone morons, some lone moron who killed but wasn't killing for political reasons or some combination of those as if that doesn't prove me right that political violence is almost uniquely left in the US.

by Luciom P

In the US, in France, in the UK, in Italy

Yes, all these guys are clearly against political violence. I think they usually have "political peace" somewhere in their charters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_m...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ne...


Rightwingers are known for their concern about fascist takeovers, after all.

His take on crypto being the largest ponzi scheme in history is probably spot-on, though.

How are those NFTs treating you, boys?


by Inso0 P

Rightwingers are known for their concern about fascist takeovers, after all.

His take on crypto being the largest ponzi scheme in history is probably spot-on, though.

How are those NFTs treating you, boys?

Bought a couple of houses selling NFT's of Trump to his supporters, so great, thanks!


What did we tell you about lying to strangers on the internet?


by Inso0 P

What did we tell you about lying to strangers on the internet?

Yes, I didn't really, It was a joke about how dumb Trumpers are. You got me.


Luciom has really separated himself from the pack when it comes to being the biggest piece of **** on this forum. Why does anyone still engage with this ******* and keep giving him a platform?


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