ex-President Trump

ex-President Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at low-info Boomers like my religions aunts. I have two questions:

a) Is anyone here who supports Trump bothered by lies like this?

b) Does anyone know what he's even talking about here? Like is there some grain of truth that he's embellishing on bigly?

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by Luciom P

It's interesting to see that what you guys use to counter / balance with thousands of people pillaging entire neighboorhoods many hundreds of times in decades, is actions of single individuals or very small "teams".

In one of the examples I provided, the "small team" managed to kill 168 people and injure 680 others. Your efforts to hand wave that sort of thing because it didn't involve a large group is beyond depraved.


by Rococo P

In one of the examples I provided, the "small team" managed to kill 168 people and injure 680 others. Your efforts to hand wave that sort of thing because it didn't involve a large group is beyond depraved.

I responded at length (not to you though) earlier about the notion that an anarchist political violent act can be called rightwing


by StoppedRainingMen P

What’s absurd (but completely believable) is how lazy the MAGA whataboutism has become. If you think, for example, 1/6 was justified and/or overblown I’d be incredibly curious what your basis is. Unless that basis is ‘well the left did a BLM and this is the same thing’ in which case save your breath cuz you’re just a mouthbreathing ****ing idiot

well, besides the attempt to stop the election from being certified, we should have political demonstrations where the citizens stage sit ins at the capitol. Also a bunch of people were charged with a dumb federal law which might not apply, I believe supreme court is gonna reverse it soon

protect protestors


by StoppedRainingMen P

What’s absurd (but completely believable) is how lazy the MAGA whataboutism has become. If you think, for example, 1/6 was justified and/or overblown I’d be incredibly curious what your basis is. Unless that basis is ‘well the left did a BLM and this is the same thing’ in which case save your breath cuz you’re just a mouthbreathing ****ing idiot

Not even worth asking. I mean some 30% of them are still clinging to the belief the election was rigged here in 2024, or at least claim to, in spite of everything they've seen since. They're never going to honestly evaluate something like 1/6, either they're not able to think that critically or aren't willing to. These are folks who humiliate themselves anywhere near rational discourse so that's not how they're going to engage others.


by Luciom P

I responded at length (not to you though) earlier about the notion that an anarchist political violent act can be called rightwing

Yep, it's all anarchist, leftist, any other -ist except rightist. You completely unironically rail against all these leftists on this board (whose existence, by the way, for the most part, is limited only by your paranoid imagination) having all these blind spots when it comes to political violence, which you yourself exhibit in spades.

TLDR: You are ****ing deranged.


by Luciom P

I responded at length (not to you though) earlier about the notion that an anarchist political violent act can be called rightwing

Oh hey you're back.

I was wondering if you could respond to my questions now:

What is a BLM person?

Do you support police brutality and police killing of black people?

Can you show us an instance of Trump calling people on both sides good people during the George Floyd protests? If not, why do you think you can't?


by Luciom P

I responded at length (not to you though) earlier about the notion that an anarchist political violent act can be called rightwing

No worries. I saw it. It was ridiculous.


by Gorgonian P

Oh hey you're back.

I was wondering if you could respond to my questions now:

What is a BLM person?

Do you support police brutality and police killing of black people?

Can you show us an instance of Trump calling people on both sides good people during the George Floyd protests? If not, why do you think you can't?

seem he does

by Luciom P

I do consider blacks rioting against the state to further their political goals leftwing political violence, as the KKK rioting against the state to further its political goals is rightwing political violence, but the KKK ended civil unrest preww2 iirc, while blacks enacted several hundreds very violent political riots in the decades after ww2.


That's out of the left-libertarian book, violence against the state is justified because the state

comparing black to KKK because they try to be treated equal as white man with basic decent human rights is a left wing issue...
not common sense issues.

As for the rest ...

by Luciom P

I do consider blacks rioting against the state to further their political goals leftwing political violence, as the KKK rioting against the state to further its political goals is rightwing political violence, but the KKK ended civil unrest preww2 iirc, while blacks enacted several hundreds very violent political riots in the decades after ww2.


didnt he just tell the opposite in those 2 sentences ?
If i understand correctly, when the state push right wing value, those opposing it are wrong to use force.
But if the state pushes left wing agenda then its ok to use force against the state.


by StoppedRainingMen P

Not that I ever take anything lucumdump has to say seriously but as a starting and ending point


I’ll wait with baited breath for a plot by BLM members to kidnap DeSantis or something to avail itself

The Whitmer kidnapping plot was an FBI entrapment operation, as was Jan 6.


by Brian James P

The Whitmer kidnapping plot was an FBI entrapment operation, as was Jan 6.

I miss the days when we could put morons like this in stocks and pelt them with rotten fruit.


I really think people are underestimating where we are and how unprecedented and unpredictable the consequences are

1. 2020 is the first time in American history a sitting US president or candidate for president has attempted to actively overthrow an election
2. This is the first time in American history a US president has faced (multiple) federal charges for which he will likely be found guilty and spending the rest of his life in prison
3. This is the first time said defendant is running for an office that quite literally saves his life
4. Factoring in 1. what are you really expecting to happen if biden wins re-election? Trump will take his lumps and die in a cell? 1/6 is absolutely nothing compared to what happens if trump loses again


by StoppedRainingMen P

I really think people are underestimating where we are and how unprecedented and unpredictable the consequences are

1. 2020 is the first time in American history a sitting US president or candidate for president has attempted to actively overthrow an election
2. This is the first time in American history a US president has faced (multiple) federal charges for which he will likely be found guilty and spending the rest of his life in prison
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its unpredictable as you say, but my sense is that nothing much will happen

if he loses he will toss off some ALL CAPS truth social posts, loads of fruity people will make their fruity views known on various online platforms, and anyone daft enough to go within five hundred yards of an important government building while wearing a maga hat will be shot in the head by one of the thousands of heavily armed guards


by StoppedRainingMen P

I really think people are underestimating where we are and how unprecedented and unpredictable the consequences are

1. 2020 is the first time in American history a sitting US president or candidate for president has attempted to actively overthrow an election
2. This is the first time in American history a US president has faced (multiple) federal charges for which he will likely be found guilty and spending the rest of his life in prison
3. T

DJT media stocks goes to 1$


Lucifer has not posted at volume for several hours. I worry for his well being.


Possibly kidnapped by a band of marauding Communist Nazis.


by d2_e4 P

We don't need your fancy "facts" and "logic" round here, sonny.

u speak some truuuf. 😉

Well, happy 4/20 at least... that one seems to cross all political boundaries.


by Luciom P

Politically motivated riots are political violence.

If your legal attempts don't get you what you want you suck it up. You accept it as the democratic will. and wait till you can legally get what you want.

Or you are a violent, anti democratic leftist and use violence. Which you justify because you are eversive as every leftist is deep inside.

The right waited decades to reverse roe and get actual 2a rights confirmed by scotus without needing

Wait? No bombing of abortion clinics or targeting of doctors? No physically preventing people from getting into the clinics?


by chillrob P

Wait? No bombing of abortion clinics or targeting of doctors? No physically preventing people from getting into the clinics?

Not mentioning how a great representative of democracy trump is right ?


by Brian James P

The Whitmer kidnapping plot was an FBI entrapment operation, as was Jan 6.

The FBI under the Trump administration schemed to create violence? Let's prosecute him for another crime!


When I listen to some MAGA here with their expert fake news knowledge, I was wondering how crazy bad he must be when you are surrounded by them on truth social of DJT .
The sight must be something ….


by FreakDaddy P

u speak some truuuf. 😉

Well, happy 4/20 at least... that one seems to cross all political boundaries.

Ah, that explains where Lucifer disappeared off to.

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Out celebrating Hitler's birthday.


These poor people, bless their hearts lol


by d2_e4 P

Lucifer has not posted at volume for several hours. I worry for his well being.

All's well.

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Apparently (according to Devin Nunes) the falling share price is because the SEC and Biden have conspired to tank it.


by biggerboat P

Apparently (according to Devin Nunes) the falling share price is because the SEC and Biden have conspired to tank it.

How come it's always someone else's fault with these people? What happened to personal responsibility and rugged individualism?

Anyway, I thought share prices were demand driven, isn't that the point of capitalism? How can Biden and the SEC tank it?

I'm sure this noted financier and economist will explain all in due course:



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