Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.


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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by washoe P

Alright. U can handle it. But he's trying to piss you off right?

I mean u guys get this, right?

I dunno. You mean he's fighting on the internet? Yeah, I get that. You mean he's a complete troll and doesn't believe what he's saying? Maybe, but at least at this point it seems more likely to me that he believes what he says.


Kinda seems like welcoming the raving bloodthirsty fascist onto the team was a mistake for Team IDF here.


You've just described the Genocide Society perfectly.


by Luciom P

Sure because your ethnicity is a belief (?????).

Are you on drugs?

UK just stripped a citizen of citizenship because she went to fight for islamic terrorists.

Shamima Begum.

That wasn't considered fascism by anyone except some radical (pro Islamic terror) leftists.

I just propose to do that at a bigger scale.

How did ethnicity come into this? You were talking about people who were pro-Hamas, which is a belief. Did you just slip and say ethnicity because you actually want to strip the citizenship and deport all non-white people?


Egypt has always controlled rafah

Israel never forced them to

In this thread
ISRAEL HAS BEEN TRYING TO PUSH PALESTINIANS OUT OF GAZA THROUGH RAFAH FOR DECADES
also in this thread
ISRAEL. DOESN'T LET THEM LEAVE THROUGH RAFAH. EGYPT ONLY STOPS THEM BECAUSE ISRAEL SOMEHOW MAGICALLY FORCES THEM TO. THEY MUST PUT THE SHEENY CURSE OR SOME OTHER JEW MAGIC ON THEM


by Victor P

haha washoe cuts thru the bullshit.

I actually thought the guy was a caricature of the shitlib bootlicker from day 1. like hes trying to make hem look bad by parody. but maybe he is sincere I dunno.

sorry I still get caught up in it too.

Idk who that is. But it's def shitposting,


by jalfrezi P

So if they have no other country to go to, then kill them.

Not "to go", If every single country on the planet affirmatively refuses you.

Btw I would pay the one way plane ticket with taxpayer money if they have no assets.

The focal part is never again having them on your soil.

Killing would be the last recourse which I don't think would be applied often if at all.

Of course if after exiled they come back that's another problem.

Btw I am just describing ostracism which was invented approx 2500 years ago iirc.

But ofc Greek city states were fascists


by microbet P

I will be upset if any mod bans you. It would be a cover-up. It would be protecting the people who have +1'd this guy.

Victor not being banned protects "jews" who insist he isn't an antisemite


Before history Nazis come in, ostracism but permanent.


by Trolly McTrollson P

Kinda seems like welcoming the raving bloodthirsty fascist onto the team was a mistake for Team IDF here.

kinda seems like thats who they are and always have been


by microbet P

I dunno. You mean he's fighting on the internet? Yeah, I get that. You mean he's a complete troll and doesn't believe what he's saying? Maybe, but at least at this point it seems more likely to me that he believes what he says.

Idk what the deal is with him.
I suspect he might be a bot 😀


by microbet P

How did ethnicity come into this? You were talking about people who were pro-Hamas, which is a belief. Did you just slip and say ethnicity because you actually want to strip the citizenship and deport all non-white people?



Except he'll kill the ones who don't have a country to go to. At the same time. LOL


by metsandfinsfan P

Victor not being banned protects "jews" who insist he isn't an antisemite

Jesus ****ing christ at putting quotes around me being a Jew. Holy ****.


by gs3737 P

Ironic coming from the guy who’s in step with genocide vic.

"He doesn't mean what he says he's just troubled and who cares about antisemitism anyway that just takes away from 35k dead Gazans!"


by metsandfinsfan P

Egypt has always controlled rafah

Israel never forced them to

In this thread
ISRAEL HAS BEEN TRYING TO PUSH PALESTINIANS OUT OF GAZA THROUGH RAFAH FOR DECADES
also in this thread
ISRAEL. DOESN'T LET THEM LEAVE THROUGH RAFAH. EGYPT ONLY STOPS THEM BECAUSE ISRAEL SOMEHOW MAGICALLY FORCES THEM TO. THEY MUST PUT THE SHEENY CURSE OR SOME OTHER JEW MAGIC ON THEM

Israel wants all Palestinians to leave the area and also don't let any of them leave the area and they are guilty of both actions at the same time because reasons


Honestly those quotes are fighting words.


by microbet P

How did ethnicity come into this? You were talking about people who were pro-Hamas, which is a belief. Did you just slip and say ethnicity because you actually want to strip the citizenship and deport all non-white people?

Ethnicity comes into this because you called me a fascist for stripping citizenship, and Nazi+fascism stripped citizenship on the basis of ethnicity, not of ideology.

I want to strip citizenship from Italians in Italy, those are the pro Hamas people.

Some italian radical leftists and some Italian neofascists specifically (horseshoe here is very strong)


by microbet P

Jesus ****ing christ at putting quotes around me being a Jew. Holy ****.

You told me to stop posting about antisemitism in colleges because it takes away from the pain of 35k dying in Gaza. Your words. No Jew would ask me to not post about antisemitism at American colleges. So yes, i am having a hard time believing it

It is one thing to be against bibi. Another thing to be against Israel

But to keep defending vic as he constantly says antisemtic slurs and not even acknowledge antisemtism in America?

I don't know

I'm sorry


by metsandfinsfan P

"He doesn't mean what he says he's just troubled and who cares about antisemitism anyway that just takes away from 35k dead Gazans!"

I would hope microbet is not making such an argument.


by microbet P

Honestly those quotes are fighting words.

Yes it's probably a step too far

I guess i just can't comprehend a Jew with your mindset


by metsandfinsfan P

You told me to stop posting about antisemitism in colleges because it takes away from the pain of 35k dying in Gaza. Your words. No Jew would ask me to not post about antisemitism at American colleges. So yes, i am having a hard time believing it

It is one thing to be against bibi. Another thing to be against Israel

But to keep defending vic as he constantly says antisemtic slurs and not even acknowledge antisemtism in America?

I don't kn

hi, I am a person who can admit I am wrong. and I will gladly admit that I am wrong about the antisemitism thing. however, that is bc as per their modus operandi, Israelis stole the meaning of antisemitism and it no longer means the same as it meant 50 or even 5 years ago.

today antisemitism is anyone who opposes fascism and genocide and mass murder in particular of the people in Gaza and the WB. it has nothing to do with Jewishness.


by Victor P

I would hope microbet is not making such an argument.

The first part about you he certainly is

He had to justify why he doesn't despise you


by Victor P

hi, I am a person who can admit I am wrong. and I will gladly admit that I am wrong about the antisemitism thing. however, that is bc as per their modus operandi, Israelis stole the meaning of antisemitism and it no longer means the same as it meant 50 or even 5 years ago.

today antisemitism is anyone who opposes fascism and genocide and mass murder in particular of the people in Gaza and the WB. it has nothing to do with Jewishness.

Just stfu you clown


Microbet

I'll step away for a bit

I'm sorry if i went to far


by Victor P

I would hope microbet is not making such an argument.

by metsandfinsfan P

Yes it's probably a step too far

I guess i just can't comprehend a Jew with your mindset

Ok, whatever. I am calm.

And yeah, I've suggested that both mets and you, vic, have said things because you're both upset. Like I've said to you that calling Jews Nazis is not really ok with me. But, I still don't think you're an antisemite. I also don't think mets gets off on seeing Palestinian children blown up even though I am also not ok with his thinking that calling for a ceasefire implies you just want bad things to happen to Jews.


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