Israel/Palestine thread

Putting in work is probably an overstatement.

Good point. Even throwing around the label genocide doesn't really get leftists or Muslims very excited. You would have a hard time finding very many Muslims or leftists who give a single **** about any of these.

Jew hatred is the animating factor in the outrage. The more things change, the more they remain the same.

its just not fair that we cant do a genocide too without criticizing

like Im pretty sure the Janjaweed in Darfur didnt give a **** if suburban Americans criticized them or were upset about their genocide. you guys want to do genocide and want everyone to love you for it. thats why you are insane.

A lot of genocides , like the Palestinian one, are perpetrated by American Allies.

I read this first as American Airlines.

It disgusts you that jews survive even though you and other antisemites have tried to annihilate us for millennia? So so ugly

The animating factor isn't Jew hatred but American allegiance. If this whole thing wasn't putting a blowback target on our backs, people would care a whole hell of a lot less. We're no longer post-9/11, we're in the proto phase of the next 9/11.

no I think it is very unhealthy to view the world as if everyone wants to kill you.

thats how we end up with the horrors going on in Gaza and the WB. but I think appealing to your humanity in that case is futile bc you support the carnage there.

I dont want to annihilate you. I dont give a **** about you. you are basically another white racist as far as I can tell. and I got plenty of them as family and friends that I dont want to murder.

Victor thinks it's disgusting that Jews think people have always wanted them dead but they persevere

Microbet I'm guessing you still find that antisemitic?..

Cv gets suspended for losing his temper but vic can keep lying about me loving genocide or cv loving genocide

Gjge

Meh. You can make the argument of American allegiance for a lot of conflicts neither leftist or Muslim activists care much about at all.

Our relationship with Saudi and our involvement in the Saudi conflict with the Houthis is a pretty good parallel, except for the amount of human suffering of the Yemen population is actually exponentially more than the Palestinians. And the energy around the outrage from the left and Muslim world isn't 1/1,000,000 the outrage concerning the Palestinians.

I of course believe, like Palestinians, the Yemen are mainly responsible for their own situation, and they are reaping what they are sowing. But we know the left and Muslim activist crowd certainly doesn't believe this, and if the left and Muslim world was actually just outraged by "American allegiance," there is certainly no reason they wouldn't be just as concerned about the Yemeni population as the Palestinians.

We are strong military and economic partners with Turkey, and honestly minus what happened in Rwanda they are pretty much the modern world kings of genocide, and have been for the last 100+ years. And no shits given by leftists or the Muslim world.

We give tons of military aid to Qatar, and our main military installation in the Middle East is in their nation. And they literally used human slaves to build soccer stadiums, and no shits given by the left or Muslim activists

The list really is endless. Sorry, "American allegiance" is not a good explanation. Maybe "hatred of western civlization" itself works better, as many of our "allies" are not perceived by the left as part of the western world, whereas Israel is.

But honestly, Jew hatred is the simplest explanation for what is going on, especially from the Muslim world, and hence probably the most accurate.

I did not use he term disgust or any of its derivatives.

I said "ugly" and "unhealthy". and not in reference to perseverance but rather to the idea that people are always out to kill you.

nobody is trying to kill you mets. nobody ever has been.

This is the second or third time I've seen where someone was banned for reacting in the manner that the months-long provoking intended.

BGP,

No offense, but I'm not really interested in you second guessing the modding of this forum unless you want to do it yourself.

I have offered to mod the two threads I participate in on several occasions now.

corpus spends every other post calling anyone who doesnt agree with Israel's right to murder Gazans an antisemite. and he most likely got banned for repeatedly calling Jalfrezi a misogynistic slur.

and Jal has only recently started posting in this thread.

so as usual, your ability to comprehend a situation is completely wrong.

Also worth noting that Bowser looked at what I said last time and reversed his ban after looking at the greater context.

you are one of the most biased people on the forum and an authoritarian to boot (lick). probably a bad fit considering how wrong you often are.

I never saw you make that offer. I don't know if modding just two threads is possible, but if you want to clear that with Bobo, or even better, take over the modding entirely, that's fine with me. I don't want this job.

you can criticize me all you want. I dont try to get you banned even when you lie your face off.

your whole campaign to become a mod is so you can ban me bc I have made you look foolish for years.

It sounds like you are highly confident that you would do a better job than me. I strongly encourage you to tell Bobo and Spew that you want to take over. If they are cool with it, I'm gone.

this is bullshit. the forum is doing fine. BGP wants to silence any opinions that differ from his.

make me mod and I wont do **** but ban spambots.

I wont even ban the people like gs and cv and BGP who repeatedly slander me.

bc I actually have conviction and consistency and morals.