Gun control

Gun control

I think that the Gun control thread got lost when the old politics thread got moved.

1 The rest of the world looks at the US policy with slack jawed astonishment.
2. “Guns don’t kill people , people do” is identical to “Nuclear weapons don’t kill people, people do”
3. Using the idea that carrying guns can prevent the government oppressing you seems to ignore the fact that the US government controls the most effective killing machine in history

24 January 2021 at 11:30 PM
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by PointlessWords P

Because?

Let me get this straight. You want to give every single person a gun in order to... reduce gun violence, have I got this right? Why don't we see whether you can figure out for yourself where this genius plan might have a tiny, almost imperceptible flaw.


by bahbahmickey P

If every state allowed teachers to have guns in schools do you think there would be more or less gun murders throughout the US (inside and outside of schools)?

murders? idk probably about the same. total deaths? definitely more.


by d2_e4 P

Let me get this straight. You want to give every single person a gun in order to... reduce gun violence, have I got this right? Why don't we see whether you can figure out for yourself where this genius plan might have a tiny, almost imperceptible flaw.

Guess you don’t have an argument. Works fine in Switzerland.


Teachers showing students how dangerous guns are and then teaching them gun safety will not increase gun violence. Sorry.


by PointlessWords P

Guess you don’t have an argument. Works fine in Switzerland.


Teachers showing students how dangerous guns are and then teaching them gun safety will not increase gun violence. Sorry.

Lol what? This is what you said:

by PointlessWords P

The govt should supply every citizen with guns from an early age.


Are you now pretending that this is the same as saying "Teachers showing students how dangerous guns are and then teaching them gun safety"?


sounds like socialism.

are the teachers government teachers? what else do they teach you?


You thinking just give teachers guns lol? The govt has a responsibility to educate and keep the public safe. Having teachers and schools teach gun safety should already be a requirement. The govt giving you monthly incentives to train and take classes should be a thing as well

In your world you think we just give everyone guns and that’s it? Did you seriously think that was my proposal?


We live in socialism right now, not sure what the issue is.


by PointlessWords P

You thinking just give teachers guns lol? The govt has a responsibility to educate and keep the public safe. Having teachers and schools teach gun safety should already be a requirement. The govt giving you monthly incentives to train and take classes should be a thing as well

In your world you think we just give everyone guns and that’s it? Did you seriously think that was my proposal?


We live in socialism right now, not sure what the issue

And in your magical world, every single person who has been issued these guns dutifully attends these lessons, listens, and maintains best practice gun safety at all times. And doesn't, you know, go out and rob someone with it, or shoot up his school. Gotcha.


by d2_e4 P

And in your magical world, every single person who has been issued these guns dutifully attends these lessons, listens, and maintains best practice gun safety at all times. And doesn't, you know, go out and rob someone with it, or shoot up his school. Gotcha.

No. You pay them to go. It’s called incentivizing. It’s a part of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness


If everyone has money, nobody needs to rob.


by PointlessWords P

No. You pay them to go. It’s called incentivizing. It’s a part of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness


If everyone has money, nobody needs to rob.

I'm not sure if you're seriously as ignorant to the realities of the world as the character you portray on this forum, but if you are, I am seriously amazed that you find enough brainpower to continue to breathe.


by d2_e4 P

I'm not sure if you're seriously as ignorant to the realities of the world as the character you portray on this forum, but if you are, I am seriously amazed that you find enough brainpower to continue to breathe.

Yes that’s cause you’re dumb and you don’t understand reality. It’s been confusing to you. I suggest learning


by PointlessWords P

Yes that’s cause you’re dumb and you don’t understand reality. It’s been confusing to you. I suggest learning

Lol. You really just went for the ole "no, u" huh? Dearie me.


No you stated that you’re amazed I have the brainpower to breathe.

Clearly if that amazes you then something is very wrong

Anyway, do you think more people having always guns has a strong positive correlation on the amount of gun violence ?


by PointlessWords P


Anyway, do you think more people having always guns has a strong positive correlation on the amount of gun violence?

Unless proven otherwise, that would be the default hypothesis, yes.


Can’t barely give decent salaries to teachers but let’s give all Students guns ?
Seem there is a problems with priorities .
But hey ban books is far more an important needed issue than banning guns .


by Montrealcorp P

Can’t barely give decent salaries to teachers but let’s give all Students guns ?

Money is never an issue in PointlessWorld.


by Montrealcorp P

Can’t barely give decent salaries to teachers but let’s give all Students guns ?
Seem there is a problems with priorities .
But hey ban books is far more an important needed issue than banning guns .


We aren’t discussing priorities. Also both can be done at once. Banning books is dumb

by d2_e4 P

Money is never an issue in PointlessWorld.

My strategies save money. I am American and I have a small understand of how much a trillion dollars is. I don’t think your brain is able to understand the enormity of that number. Respectfully


by PointlessWords P


My strategies save money. I am American and I have a small understand of how much a trillion dollars is. I don’t think your brain is able to understand the enormity of that number. Respectfully

Firstly, "enormity" doesn't mean what you think it means. Secondly, using the fact you are an American to demonstrate that you are good at maths is, to be generous, ironic. Thirdly, no, you do not have even a "small understand" of how much a trillion dollars is, nor how money works in general.


None of what you said contradicts my post or the meaning of the post.


by PointlessWords P

None of what you said contradicts my post or the meaning of the post.

300 million guns at 200 dollars a gun is 6% of your trillion dollars. After we pay for your courses for these 300 million people, and pay them to attend, we're probably closer to the 15% mark. Don't forget we need enough left over to give all the Palestinians a million dollars each, and to pay cops to follow every criminal defendant around 24/7. We're really gonna need a bigger trillion.


Also, one would have thought after I spanked you at your own test, you'd wind your ****ing neck in a bit with the self aggrandisement and condescension.


by d2_e4 P

300 million guns at 200 dollars a gun is 6% of your trillion dollars. After we pay for your courses for these 300 million people, and pay them to attend, we're probably closer to the 15% mark. Don't forget we need enough left over to give all the Palestinians a million dollars each, and to pay cops to follow every criminal defendant around 24/7. We're really gonna need a bigger trillion.

We are discussing gun control. Why do you keep bringing up other conversations?


by PointlessWords P

We are discussing gun control. Why do you keep bringing up other conversations?

Because it's relevant to demonstrate that aside from the fact that your ideas are moronic on their merits regardless of cost, you also do not have even the slightest understanding of how much things cost or how money works in general.


I have to say, the government giving guns to everyone is the stupidest idea I've ever heard. And I've heard a lot of stupid ideas.


by d2_e4 P

Because it's relevant to demonstrate that aside from the fact that your ideas are moronic on their merits regardless of cost, you also do not have even the slightest understanding of how much things cost or how money works in general.

Ya just attack arguments and stop distracting yourself with things that don’t matter. Logic can be attacked on its head, you don’t need to look around for other things to criticize.


by biggerboat P

I have to say, the government giving guns to everyone is the stupidest idea I've ever heard. And I've heard a lot of stupid ideas.

The majority of states of constitutional carry policies. We have like 200 million guns in the country. It’s about time we incentivized education and put a stop to gun violence

Education solves problems. People didn’t like birth control when it first came out, but education changes things


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