Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
I don't think any admins or mods should be banning anyone because we are all adults and are able to scroll or ignore.
But without the need to search threads looking for offensive posts that comes directly from the power to ban, what would they do with their time?
I'm surprised the hate spammer is allowed to post. They insist anyone they don't like is a commie and all commies must be murdered. That's the thesis, and it posts every 3 minutes.
That's Communism for ya!
Berlusconi was a very center left person, but anticommunist.
His political sponsor for more than 10 years, before he entered politics, was Craxi, the socialist leader (first socialist to become italian prime minister, in 1983).
Many of the people who joined his party in 1994 when he created it were ex-socialists (after Craxi escaped to Tunisia and the party imploded).
He even took in some actual communists, like Sandro Bondi who for years was Berlusconi party actual spokesman
All in all certainly not a person who came from a rightwing history, with a rightwing entourage (unlike Meloni for ex).
I dont know if they were drunk, but I would definitely be interested in the chain of events that led to them deciding to peruse the Trump thread and decide Lucium needed a ban from his posting there.
I suppose it's quite normal for people to check even if they aren't regular of a forum.
Maybe he was looking for the latest polls or updates on the trials or whatever.
And he saw a quite long derail.
Problem here is that he might have no idea that's fairly normal in this forum and explicitly allowed (iirc? i read repeatedly that being OT wasn't punishable, and everyone including mods does it), and the "not so funny" part was that i was answering questions and provokations (not in the negative sense, in the technical sense, he kept interacting with me) by a green name!!
the ability to read and a sense of decency are not exactly a complex chain of events
what do you mean? in the banning message there was a very explicit reference to being OT in the trump thread, no mention at all of content-based banning.
Sense of decency in what sense? i wasn't banned because my content violates any rule (because it doesn't).
Im really curious what your post was
they weren't deleted, it was a series of exchanges with rococo about my idea of a constitutional principle that would be very nice to have (but doesn't exist in the USA and afaik in the strong form nowhere, but in weaker forms it is in several EU constitutions) about a complete ban of sacrifice of individual quality of life in order to achieve third party statistical benefit.
So a complete ban of vaccine mandates being legal (unless the disease is very dangerous for the individual being mandated, in which case it's paternalism which is another topic), complete ban of the draft no exception in war of offense , ban of the concept of DUI and so on
I cannot get my head round videopro banning you over that out of the blue.
It makes no sense. Can anyone ask him what he thinks happened? Not that it matters apart from curiosity.
I cannot get my head round videopro banning you over that out of the blue.
It makes no sense. Can anyone ask him what he thinks happened? Not that it matters apart from curiosity.
The user note more or less says what Luciom says he was told -- that he was banned for off topic posting about COVID in the Trump thread. If you want more information, you of course are free to contact Videopro directly.
He saw that we needed some drama in this forum and thought that he would be the one to provide it. He's done a pretty good job so far!
videopro is a solid poster in general but he does tend to randomly step in at times when he feels his work is needed and it nearly always is not
All:
I just informed Bobo and KS that I no longer want to moderate this forum. I told them that I will continue until a replacement is found or until they conclude that no replacement can be found. I don't know exactly what would happen in the latter scenario.
Rococo
All:
I just informed Bobo and KS that I no longer want to moderate this forum. I told them that I will continue until a replacement is found or until they conclude that no replacement can be found. I don't know exactly what would happen in the latter scenario.
Rococo
Appreciate you holding out as long as this. It's a thankless job.
Thanks for your service Rococo, appreciated.
I think DonkJr should step up to the plate.
