The costs of trans visibility
Yesterday, Dylan Mulvaney broke her silence: https://www.tiktok.com/@dylanmulvaney/vi....
For context, this is a trans influencer who built a 10 million strong following on TikTok. She took a brand deal with budweiser to post an ad on an instagram, and the anti-trans right went absolutely ballistic, calling for a boycott, condemning the company, and to some perhaps unknowable degree it influenced that Budweiser sales dropped by a 1/4 and
. Dylan speaks more personally about the effect of the hatred on her.
What strikes me about this story is that it is just about visibility. This isn't inclusion in sports or gender-affirming care for minors, it was just that a trans person was visible. This wasn't even visibility in a TV commerical that a poor right-winger is forced to see, it was an ad on her own instagram page. We're all in our own social media algorithm influenced bubbles, but from my vantage point it really has seemed that in the last year or so things have just gotten worse for trans people and the backlash to even minor visibility is growing.
We need to do better.
19 is not underage in ****ing normal countries lol.
and everyone will serve you anything at night everywhere in the Mediterranean area.
are you even real? when I was 16 alcohol was infinite everywhere
Hmm, well it sounds like your ****ing normal countries could use a lot of change in their culturally acceptable practices.
In the US, being drunk in public is a crime, and it's a bigger crime for bars to serve drunk people, regardless of their age.
Though if someone drinks enough that they have to puke in a public place, I don't particularly care what happens to them. Society doesn't need them anymore than we need rapists and murderers. Our rules should not be catered to people who deliberately put their own lives in danger.
Hopefully you're teaching them not to go out to clubs and get so drunk that they puke and are not aware of their surroundings.
aside from the fact that it doesn't matter much what you teach, they do what they want anyway (it's genetics all the way down, parenting matters less than we would like it did) , you can sometimes end up puking on less alcohol than you can normally manage, depending on what you ate, the alcohol mix, and what else is going on with your body.
and people can put stuff in your glass as well.
Hmm, well it sounds like your ****ing normal countries could use a lot of change in their culturally acceptable practices.
Though if someone drinks enough that they have to puke in a public place, I don't particularly care what happens to them. Society doesn't need them anymore than we need rapists and murderers.
well I do. and puking isn't like being violent toward others, at all, in any possible way, and you know that, so stop the bullshitting
well I do. and puking isn't like being violent toward others, at all, in any possible way, and you know that, so stop the bullshitting
And do you also think that drunk men are currently prevented from going into women's bathrooms in dark clubs?
I've done it myself accidentally, and when I hadn't even been drinking.
There are better ways to protect people than having a picture of a woman on a door.
lol at your drunk, drug addled daughter being more at risk in the bathroom than out in the club.
We're definitely the kind of people who don't think putting a picture on a door protects anyone.
I'm guessing that k-hole doesn't translate well into Italian hence the confusion
when you take enough ketamine, it puts you in this state, commonly called the k-hole
i don't think you'll find anyone who disagrees with this 😀
MaAm I imagining things or did Luciom just say he takes his 8 year old drinking and clubbing and Chillrob thinks people who get drunk in public deserve the same societal retribution as rapists and murderers?
And rickroll getting beat up, down and around by uke like rr plays for the Suns.
Most of the rules proponents of trans rights suggest are just allowing trans people to do things any other woman is allowed to do. Like IF we have gendered bathrooms THEN trans people should be allowed to go in the bathroom they identify with. Like sure maybe I'm somewhat on board with the idea that we should move away from gendered bathrooms, and maybe we will, but as long as we do then trans people should be allowed in them.
This doesn't
Well personally, i have found a lot of what youve said about transgender healthcare to be helpful. I just wish you were a little less partisian but i guess i get it when arguing against the other side.
But like, we dont need to afford the bearded rednecks the opportunity to take over womens power lifting records to assist in transgender acceptance - which has likely done the opposite, to put it lightly. We are literally still exiting one of the biggest shitshows in sports as a result and its all ideoligcal horseshit.
I guess it would be nice to separate discussion on hormone therapy and overal healthcare for transgender people and that other ****.
MaAm I imagining things or did Luciom just say he takes his 8 year old drinking and clubbing and Chillrob thinks people who get drunk in public deserve the same societal retribution as rapists and murderers?
And rickroll getting beat up, down and around by uke like rr plays for the Suns.
You're a bit off on all of those, but you have the general ideas covered.
Well personally, i have found a lot of what youve said about transgender healthcare to be helpful. I just wish you were a little less partisian but i guess i get it when arguing against the other side.
But like, we dont need to afford the bearded rednecks the opportunity to take over womens power lifting records to assist in transgender acceptance - which has likely done the opposite, to put it lightly. We are literally still exiting one
There was a thread about TG and sports for awhile, but it got shut down.
When this is the only trans related thread allowed, everything is bound to go here.
MaAm I imagining things or did Luciom just say he takes his 8 year old drinking and clubbing and Chillrob thinks people who get drunk in public deserve the same societal retribution as rapists and murderers?
And rickroll getting beat up, down and around by uke like rr plays for the Suns.
are you some kind of truly deranged pervert? I am saying I have a 8 y daughter right now and when she grows up I want her to have separate bathrooms available.
jfc how horrible can someone be?
Yeah dude, I posed it as a question because maybe, it's another "language issue" as it seemed pretty incredible. Of course, your kill all the Marxists (everyone who disagrees with you), kill anyone who blocks traffic and your death camp guard govt pipe dreams are pretty incredibly perverted too.
RR is just stupid enough to think he is winning in his battle with Uke because he somehow thinks he has a shred of credibility here. No one believes anything you post RR but keep on being you.
No one who has followed his antics with Uke thinks he is posting in good faith.
Oh come on, he is much closer to good faith than uke, who claims to answer questions he doesn't and thinks he knows more about things he has never tried.
We're definitely the kind of people who don't think putting a picture on a door protects anyone.
It creates a social norm, and a degree of expectation, and gives women the right and the confidence to tell an intruder, 'You shouldn't be in here,' and allows any nearby staff or members of the public to back her up. These civilised norms are precisely what 'queer theory' activists are trying to do away with. But it looks like they're failing.
It creates a social norm, and a degree of expectation, and gives women the right and the confidence to tell an intruder, 'You shouldn't be in here,' and allows any nearby staff or members of the public to back her up. These civilised norms are precisely what 'queer theory' activists are trying to do away with. But it looks like they're failing.
It also allows any security staff to immediately use violence to remove the males from the bathroom even before actual violence happens, which can prevent a lot of problems.
Because trained security staff will keep an eyes on badly behaving drunk groups people especially when they move toward the bathrooms and if they even attempt to enter the women bathroom it's GG them.
But for some reasons poster ITT never went clubbing , have no idea of actual real life dynamics, never had to help women friends who drank a tad too much from harassment in clubs and so on
I'm guessing that k-hole doesn't translate well into Italian hence the confusion
when you take enough ketamine, it puts you in this state, commonly called the k-hole
Side fact, I have a family member experiencing really massive problems with ketamine dependency right now. It really, really sucks and we've been struggling to help:(
i'm sorry to hear that, i've never heard of it becoming a dependency but seen enough people on it and the zombie state they enter that i wouldn't wish that on anyone - always been curious about it myself but the idea of taking a drug where the world ceases to exist for an extended chunk of time isn't really all that appealing to me
hope things turn out for the better
interestingly, by far the most common ads i see on Instagram lately are from companies selling ketamine microdosing kits to cure depression so it seems ketamine is entering the zeitgeist and no longer a fringe thing only people at week long folk music festivals would know about this is the company https://www.joyous.team/blog/microdosing...
Ya in her case started as like self-medicating for anxiety, and then grew to going full on k-hole every day and not able to do normal work/life functions. She's left town now to be away from her ex boyfriend who was supplying it, which is good, but is also now away from her family, which is not so good.
fffff, i know we have our differences but I'm sorry to hear that and hope things turn around
It seems to me that the issue really raises from the right being upset that the words men and women were hijacked to mean something broader than male and female. The right want man and male and woman and female to remain synonymous. The transactivists use of men and women and adding trans or cis as a modifier is objectionable and offensive to them. Their logic is that if you don't expand the terminology you don't need the modifiers.
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your theyr'e idiot 🙄
So Lia Thomas is banned now?
Finally. IT took these idiots some time...
FINA (World Aquatics) banned Thomas, and anyone who has 'experienced any part of male puberty beyond Tanner Stage 2 or age 12', from women's competitions nearly two years ago. Thomas is suing, but is also being sued by a large number of actual female swimmers.
