Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.


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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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Bottom line is... the Jews ain't goin out like that again. F the culture in Palestine that lead to this, starting with their belligerence towards a race of people with roots to that very land, fleeing an actual genocide. You have sown to the wind. Game over.


by PointlessWords P

Yea both sides are bad. Israel is worse. Ok what’s next

I wouldn't say they're worse. They just have more power and might and stuff. With the impunity backing of the U.S.


by PointlessWords P

Bro you believe Jesus Christ is the son of a god. Please don’t tell people they are brain dead

You're reaping, nga. Look around


Think mankind can negotiate its way out of a wet paperbag lol

Leave God alone, he has left you alone.


We live, or no one lives. The whole world can get nuked for all I care. That's the justice you seek. Indiscriminate justice


by Schlitz mmmm P

Bottom line is... the Jews ain't goin out like that again. F the culture in Palestine that lead to this, starting with their belligerence towards a race of people with roots to that very land, fleeing an actual genocide. You have sown to the wind. Game over.

I respect this more than the just war fallacy.

The cultural roots argument is bunk, though. They all have roots there, cultures don't own land, and do we exclude the Israeli Jews of Russian, Polish, and German decent? No one in their right mind would reset the world demographics to 2000 years ago by ethnicity by force. Talk about genocide.

Not to mention, this garbage is rooted in the notion here's some dude in the sky picking favorites. And even if we're to believe the book on which this dude is based, Jews aren't supposed to have a state. The Judeo-Christo-Islamic faith is dependent on a better afterlife as a reward for enduring perpetual persecution. Not for conquering the so-called holy land.



hamas have a policy of targeting israeli civilians for rape and murder, including but not limited to their actions on oct 7. further, their leader has made a specific promise to his people that. if able, they will carry out further oct 7s, and on a grander scale

any negotiated outcome must therefore include the removal of hamas' ability to carry out their policy of rape and murder of israeli civilians


by The Horror P

So the killing of tens of thousands of women and children while leveling the territory is an oopsie?

Exactly what would classify genocide, then? Forget the extremes. What's the minimum that crosses the line that Israel hasn't done?

You should listen to Dunyain more. He tells it like it is, at least.

Not an oopsie. It's called collateral damage.


Yeah, no. @ the horror


by The Horror P

I wouldn't say they're worse. They just have more power and might and stuff. With the impunity backing of the U.S.

I think judging people by civilians killed is a good metric.

It’s how I judge us presidents


You guys are still in denial of the role Islam plays. There's no point even talking, honestly


This is from your definition Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in
whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

Israel is not doing anything with the intent to destroy a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group. They are trying to destroy hamas or at minimum demilitrize them and take them out of power

The rest of your definition is moot


by BOIDS P

hamas have a policy of targeting israeli civilians for rape and murder, including but not limited to their actions on oct 7. further, their leader has made a specific promise to his people that. if able, they will carry out further oct 7s, and on a grander scale

any negotiated outcome must therefore include the removal of hamas' ability to carry out their policy of rape and murder of israeli civilians

Mossad could go into Qatar and behead Hamas, literally and figuratively.


by metsandfinsfan P

Not an oopsie. It's called collateral damage.

What's the minimum that crosses the line that Israel hasn't done?


by PointlessWords P

I think judging people by civilians killed is a good metric.

It’s how I judge us presidents

You just hate that Israel has an iron dome

If not for the iron dome Israel would have thousands of civilian casualties too

Your punishing Israel for having a good defense system

Laughable


by metsandfinsfan P

This is from your definition Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in
whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

Israel is not doing anything with the intent to destroy a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group. They are trying to destroy hamas or at minimum demilitrize them and take them out of power

The rest of your definition is moot

This could have been done without an indiscriminate aerial assault on the territory.


ISIS is a fluke, 1/1000 outlier of the possible interpretations and manifestations of Islam , right? Just in these last 10/15 years, that total debauchery, stone age shiit


by metsandfinsfan P

You just hate that Israel has an iron dome

If not for the iron dome Israel would have thousands of civilian casualties too

Your punishing Israel for having a good defense system

Laughable

If it's so vital, Israel could make it a priority instead of being welfare queens about it.


by Schlitz mmmm P

ISIS is a fluke, 1/1000 outlier of the possible interpretations and manifestations of Islam , right? Just in these last 10/15 years, that total debauchery, stone age shiit

"Reform Islam" is a fringe group, that's undeniable.


Still they ride.


by The Horror P

"Reform Islam" is a fringe group, that's undeniable.

Can they become reformed icwydt lol

Not without a campaign that disappears the most prominent radicals


lol it can't be done

This is destined, there's no other explanation


by Schlitz mmmm P

lol it can't be done

This is destined, there's no other explanation

By that logic, everything is destined, and there's no right or wrong, so the Islamofascists were also destined. Makes no sense.

These are all sick death cult agents of free will at work here.


This show of force leads to the deradicalization of Islam. They're the colonizers, the caliphate

It's not gonna be any diplomacy lol

Got 2 parties going medieval (don't forget the other 109 extant armed conflicts), and a Mickey Mouse international court making rulings n shiit


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