Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.


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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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and it was the Euros who created and ran those camps. jesus man.


by Victor P

and it was the Euros who created and ran those camps. jesus man.

the Arabs were allies of the Nazis. friends. sharing the same hatred for Jews. Arabs were like "Allah is answering our prayers" wrt nazis


We gotta talk about Bear Jew #2. My god she's 20 years old. Has the weight of the whole world on her, protests all around. And she delivers THAT performance. What a boss.

She's headed to the finals




by Luciom P

the Arabs were allies of the Nazis. friends. sharing the same hatred for Jews. Arabs were like "Allah is answering our prayers" wrt nazis

Yes, I'm sure that's what they said.


by metsandfinsfan P

oh weird it works here

hmm, maybe try on X? The Eden Golan performance from today. She won. Wonder why they don't let Muricans see.


by rafiki P

We gotta talk about Bear Jew #2. My god she's 20 years old. Has the weight of the whole world on her, protests all around. And she delivers THAT performance. What a boss.

She's headed to the finals

She was booed off stage with chants of From the river to the sea during a semi rehearsal.


It's unavailable in USA onv


The typical crybabies will call this antisemitism.


They aren't wrong by the new definition. Antisemitism is when you punish Jews for harassing young women.


by corpus vile P

She was booed off stage with chants of From the river to the sea during a semi rehearsal.

The police escort they needed to keep her safe is insane. Never seen anything like it. I have no idea how she gave a performance like that. Spirit of a lion.


by Luciom P

There is no paradox using capitalism, because capitalism improved the lives of so many people so much any decent person would just brag of being pro capitalism, and gain the higher moral ground over anyone disagreeing automatically.

While communisms never worked positively, no instance of it doing more for the people than it's absence, it's the rare case of Pareto inefficient solution: always strictly worse than alternatives.

The best Marxist

You say Stalin, I say Pinochet


amazingly people do not like genocidal maniacs. I know this is quite hard for you guys to understand bc of the great pleasure you get from murdering Palestinians.



this is undoubtedly a good thing. I am sure if she didnt support the murder of Palestinian babies then she would be free to walk wherever. but as it is, these people need to be made pariahs.


by Luciom P

There is no paradox using capitalism, because capitalism improved the lives of so many people so much any decent person would just brag of being pro capitalism, and gain the higher moral ground over anyone disagreeing automatically.

While communisms never worked positively, no instance of it doing more for the people than it's absence, it's the rare case of Pareto inefficient solution: always strictly worse than alternatives.

The best Marxist

If you're saying capitalism exists (I would say it doesn't), then you're only talking about mixed economies. Those with socialist healthcare, social security of some sort, fire departments, libraries, free schooling, and stuff like that.


by metsandfinsfan P

Bibi's response to joe's aid comment

Amen

Welfare queen


by Victor P

this is undoubtedly a good thing. I am sure if she didnt support the murder of Palestinian babies then she would be free to walk wherever. but as it is, these people need to be made pariahs.

You are such a pos


by rafiki P

oh weird it works here

hmm, maybe try on X? The Eden Golan performance from today. She won. Wonder why they don't let Muricans see.

When I'm in Colombia I often get the "video not unavailable in your country" message randomly for random videos. I love a good conspiracy but the reasons why stuff is unavailable in places is going to be pretty prosaic. Just get a VPN. i recommend Proton.


by metsandfinsfan P

You are such a pos

this is what you and her support


It's funny watching people boo and protest a 20 year old girl who just wants to sing.

But man, she's singing her heart out. Legit Israeli resilience.


Nazis had a lot of resilience too. and some great singers. they were still genocidal maniacs. the history books will place you right alongside them.


by campfirewest P

Sometimes no means yes. Just like in dating 😉

I'm not going to do anything because I am not actively modding the forum, but I'd strongly suggest avoiding date rape jokes.



Caitlin rarely misses. and she doesnt miss here.


by Victor P

Caitlin rarely misses. and she doesnt miss here.

Agree that she rarely misses but the few times she has she can be quite maddening. I forget what it was now.


by The Horror P

If you're saying capitalism exists (I would say it doesn't), then you're only talking about mixed economies. Those with socialist healthcare, social security of some sort, fire departments, libraries, free schooling, and stuff like that.

Most if not all of what you listed didn't exist when we grew economically at the highest pace ever in human history (late 19th century).

Yes there is much more socialism in the mix now, and economic growth is a lot weakened because of it , but you can't cancel the past without social security and public healthcare and so on which eas exactly the moment in time we started moving from a plateau we were in for millennia to become richer without precedent.

And negating that was the most important and positively moral thing to ever happen to humanity after agriculture puts you in the dustbin of history, in the "your opinion about anything relayed to human beings is utter garbage" bin.

Which coincidentally, to stay on topic, is exactly where all the pro Palestinian people are. Because I am not sure you noticed, but the divide in the west has all the various colors of red of the left pro Palestine, and the decent people pro Israel.

When victor and his lot are pro something, given he is Marxist, you can bet your life they are completely wrong morally and save the time to determine why.

The radical left everywhere being pro Palestine IS THE ACTUAL PROOF it is a moral imperative to be pro Israel, above everything else. The rest is a post hoc rationalization, pro Israel with no ifs and no buts was the imperative the instant the worst people in society (radical leftists) became vocal pro Palestine.

Sometimes it is that simple really


by Luciom P

Most if not all of what you listed didn't exist when we grew economically at the highest pace ever in human history (late 19th century).

Yes there is much more socialism in the mix now, and economic growth is a lot weakened because of it , but you can't cancel the past without social security and public healthcare and so on which eas exactly the way moment in time we started moving from a plateau we were in for millennia to become richer wit

Imma let you finish but capitalists reject foreign aid. Especially to Israel.


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