Israel/Palestine thread
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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
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Israel now 2nd favourite for the Eurovision song contest having been backed in from 50-1 yesterday.
She was booed during rehearsals and during the semi final by pro-Palestine protesters, because y'know you should definitely blame a singer for the actions of Israel.
Sidenote. The song was originally called October Rain and was rejected as too controversial... name was changed and some of the lyrics were changed and here we are
and you want israeli civilians raped and murdered again, being the natural consequence of allowing hamas to continue to run gaza
i can understand why you dont care about that, but you will appreciate that the israeli government does
No, that's wrong as usual but keep BOIDSing the thread up with red hot football bloke in pub takes.
I want a permanent ceasefire and a Palestinian state which seems the only option now.
You ghouls want more massacres and limbless children*. Nice.
* though to you they're not real humans I guess
i'm sure you would opt for zero deaths if you had a magic wand, but you dont, and so unfortunately the natural consequence of your preferred course of action is murdered and raped israeli civilians
grow up, and own it
When there are no good tactics for a strategy then it's a bad strategy.
I can easily believe that all the tactics for rhis urban warfare are horrific
This is bullshit and you know it.
Imagine yourself saying this: if there is no good way to withdraw from Afghanistan then it’s a bad strategy to withdraw from Afghanistan.
You can’t.
No, that's wrong as usual but keep BOIDSing the thread up with red hot football bloke in pub takes.
I want a permanent ceasefire and a Palestinian state which seems the only option now.
You ghouls want more massacres and limbless children*. Nice.
* though to you they're not real humans I guess
What is so hard to understand about Hamas is not actually interested in permanent peace? They straight up tell us they are not relenting from their mission to eradicate Jews “river to the sea” and will repeat Oct 7 on a grander scale when able.
They are openly saying they just want to get a break, to get Israelis to pay for their reconstruction, and to resume the rapes and murders when able. How could you blame Israel for treating Hamas as an existing threat? How could you think they are serious about peace?
You want permanent peace? Get rid of Hamas.
It's incredible you ask for Jewish soldiers to die more in order to have fewer Palestinian civilians dead, no country in the history of world would operate under that perverted and immoral logic
I'm skeptical. There almost certainly have been times when a nuclear power could have used nuclear weapons with little or no fear of nuclear retaliation but instead chose to put ground forces at risk.
i'm sure you would opt for zero deaths if you had a magic wand, but you dont, and so unfortunately the natural consequence of your preferred course of action is murdered and raped israeli civilians
grow up, and own it
Fat bloke in pub speaketh
Just offer them all, Palestinians and Israelis alike, citizenship in the US and see what compromises can be made for those who remain, including a Palestinian state. Sorry your dreams of a toxic nuclear state for people wanting to impose Apartheid on Muslims doesn't wash.
This is bullshit and you know it.
Imagine yourself saying this: if there is no good way to withdraw from Afghanistan then it’s a bad strategy to withdraw from Afghanistan.
You can’t.
No it's not bullshit. Exiting afganistan was a key part of the strategy - if there was no achievable end game then going in was a bad idea. This is generally true with military solutions. They are so easy to get into, everyone can sound really brave and tough, then they are an uncontrollable cluster **** and then you can't get out.
Military solutions need to have a clear achiveable objective. Not 'we must do something 'brave and tough' even if it's monstrously stupid and then blame everyone else.
Yeah, like every aggressor wants the object of their belligerence to surrender, and if they don't...
Boids said nothing wrong
The terror attacks were very bad but an inevitable result of talking people's land from them. How did you expect Palestinians to react after so many decades?
No one slates the ANC or PIRA, only Hamas because they are Muslims, the world's new de facto bogey men.
i'm sure you would opt for zero deaths if you had a magic wand, but you dont, and so unfortunately the natural consequence of your preferred course of action is murdered and raped israeli civilians
grow up, and own it
You own it. Unfortuntely the natural consequences of empowering the worst elements while so damaging israels international support are really serious.
I imagine that both people were talking about multiple posters.
Spoiler
Schlitz has repeatedly told you to harm yourself, called you "Arab fellating garbage" and "monkey filth," and told you to go mingle with the "queens" at the protests. You are posting graphic pictures of dead babies (and similar videos) and calling various people baby killers. mets called you a pos and suggested that you jerk off to schlitz's circumcised cock. campfirewest decided a date rape joke would lighten the mood. The Horror decided to start calling people tards.
Schlitz has probably been the worst but I could make a pretty good case for closing the thread and banning a lot of people.
The baby pictures are the reality of what is taking place.
I definitely don't like seeing it but they should hardly be some ban worthy offense.
And when people make posts like "kill them all", then that includes babies and they thus they support the killing of babies.
