Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.

This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.

Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.

Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.

So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.

Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.

So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.

We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.

Thanks.

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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by corpus vile P

Everyone deserves fair due process even the worst of the worst.

I don't really believe there is such a thing as "fair due process".

I would be happy to streamline everything and just live with the fact that 10% or so of those convicted were innocent. IMO one guilty person going free is at least as bad as one innocent person being put in prison.


by chillrob P

I don't really believe there is such a thing as "fair due process".

I would be happy to streamline everything and just live with the fact that 10% or so of those convicted were innocent. IMO one guilty person going free is at least as bad as one innocent person being put in prison.

No there is such a thing and due to its fallibility, it's absolutely vital that it's fair for everyone as that includes you and me as well as the worst of the worst. Yes it absolutely sucks when the guilty go free no argument there.


by corpus vile P

No there is such a thing and due to its fallibility, it's absolutely vital that it's fair for everyone as that includes you and me as well as the worst of the worst. Yes it absolutely sucks when the guilty go free no argument there.

Due process is what is currently happening to Donald Trump. It certainly doesn't seem fair to me.

Those with no resources can already get away with anything,while poor people are almost always convicted.
Might as well lose the expensive sham and just railroad everyone regardless of their means.

I would be happy to take my chances at being one of the wrongly imprisoned to have every violent criminal permanently removed from society.


by Rococo P

I really, really disagree. Railroading people is never a good idea. This notion is a root cause of a lot of bad policing. And railroading people justifiably diminishes public confidence and has a corrosive effect on relations between the police and the communities they serve.

It's called 'noble cause corruption', and it's not good and it just leads to overturns on appeal (even if they blindingly obviously did it, like the Bridgewater Four in England).


by chillrob P

Due process is what is currently happening to Donald Trump. It certainly doesn't seem fair to me.

Having your day in court is fair. As opposed to being dragged out and shot or getting a blatant show trial where the conviction is a foregone conclusion.


by 57 On Red P

It's called 'noble cause corruption', and it's not good and it just leads to overturns on appeal (even if they blindingly obviously did it, like the Bridgewater Four in England).

Yep, so no more appeals for basic violent crimes.


by corpus vile P

Having your day in court is fair. As opposed to being dragged out and shot or getting a blatant show trial where the conviction is a foregone conclusion.

But now we have blatant show trials where acquittal is a forgone conclusion.

When someone is on tape admitting to sexually assaulting teenage beauty pageant contestants, I'm fine with the immediate punishment of getting dragged out and shot.


I closed the I/P thread a few minutes ago.

I will not allow I/P discussion to be injected into ANY other thread (including this thread) without a deletion and a ban.


lol


wtf


by chillrob P

But now we have blatant show trials where acquittal is a forgone conclusion.

When someone is on tape admitting to sexually assaulting teenage beauty pageant contestants, I'm fine with the immediate punishment of getting dragged out and shot.

...Okay. I disagree. Could you do me a favour and um, promise you'll never run for office as in any office?


by Victor P

lol

Heh it's gonna be hard for you to hold your water in this regard innit?


by Rococo P

Probably not for long.

In fact, I'm going to self-ban for a month and see how that goes.

you are a good man


by corpus vile P

Heh it's gonna be hard for you to hold your water in this regard innit?

nah we can just talk about lol Ukraine


by Victor P

nah we can just talk about lol Ukraine

Yes I'm sure you'll link a bunch of tweets highlighting how it's really all about poor hard done by Putin against the Nazi scourge, which I look forward to with complete apathy. 😀 You'll prolly end up getting that one closed too. 😆


I am sure you will make a bunch of lies like all good liberals


Are u admitting to being a good liberal now, V ?


I myself dabbled in liberalism once


by Rococo P

Apparently the software doesn't allow people with green names to self-ban, so I guess that I'll just have to show some self-restraint. I'll check back in a month.

i know must be stressful now with the bankruptcy proceedings, godspeed rudoco


by King Spew P

I closed the I/P thread a few minutes ago.

I will not allow I/P discussion to be injected into ANY other thread (including this thread) without a deletion and a ban.

Thank you, seriously.

And Rococo, please don’t leave. You’re one of the nice things still around here.


by Crossnerd P

Thank you, seriously.

And Rococo, please don’t leave. You’re one of the nice things still around here.

I don't think that dude changes his mind once it's made up.

This forum will die without him. Nobody is bigger than the forum, but he kinda is.


by King Spew P

I closed the I/P thread a few minutes ago.

I will not allow I/P discussion to be injected into ANY other thread (including this thread) without a deletion and a ban.

Why not ban the two users you deemed mainly responsible for the state of the thread?


bc I did nothing banworthy.

and bc people are allowed to abuse me as much as possible.


by Victor P

bc I did nothing banworthy.

and bc people are allowed to abuse me as much as possible.

Yeah vic. You're the real victim here.


Victor 4 mod! ldo


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