Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.

This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.

Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.

Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.

So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.

Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.

So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.

We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.

Thanks.

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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by biggerboat P

Crossnerd's a mod? Wow.

She'll be great. Just never thought she would want it.

Aww thanks, friend Look at us now!


by d2_e4 P

Crossnerd, since you are now our new overlord,

Mistake #1... there is no overlord, only a group of lords (quite a step down for a king)

#2 maybe you should have ####'d them better.


I'm at the airport i'm Asheville, North Carolina and they are doing gate announcements for a flight to Newark, New Jersey and the guy is pronouncing it like "Nork"-- as one syllable.


by Luckbox Inc P

I'm at the airport i'm Asheville, North Carolina and they are doing gate announcements for a flight to Newark, New Jersey and the guy is pronouncing it like "Nork"-- as one syllable.

This is correct.


It's more "Nwerk". The one in Delaware is New Ark.


'nother

Nerk, Ohio


Trawna, Ontario.


by DonkJr P

More and more long-time posters disappearing and mods demodding themselves. Can't be a good sign for the health of this forum.


Are there really? I haven't kept really close track, so you could be right, but my observation has been that there is always a trickle/stream of people leaving, stepping back from moderating, etc. But at some point, the accumulation (which is natural as time passes) becomes more noticeable to us.

Or there's been an increase and I haven't really noticed.

by DonkJr P

Can't be a good sign for the health of this forum.


Well, I think this issue is as much about replacement as anything. If forums were still thriving, there would be constant replenishment and people leaving wouldn't be a big deal. But I'd say forums have been surpassed by social media platforms like Twitter and Discord, and for us old people, Facebook. But whatever the reason, if nothing changes in terms of people's preference of interaction platforms online, I expect most forums will continue to decline, some faster than others. The decline here has to be at least a decade old now, so I expect it has quite a while to go yet.

by rickroll P

sorry to hear that, i know we had our differences over the years but always felt like you did a great job and always kept your cool relatively well despite how difficult that can be in that job at times


Thanks!


by Luckbox Inc P

I'm at the airport i'm Asheville, North Carolina and they are doing gate announcements for a flight to Newark, New Jersey and the guy is pronouncing it like "Nork"-- as one syllable.

by ganstaman P

This is correct.

by Didace P

It's more "Nwerk". The one in Delaware is New Ark.

I worked in Newark Delaware for several years. When answering the phone i would pronounce Newark as they would call the jersey city and clients would go on tilt


by Didace P

It's more "Nwerk". The one in Delaware is New Ark.

The original Newark in England is 'Newrk', a bit like the New Jersey one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newark-on-...

As Americans have this thing about 'pronouncing words as spelt' (or 'spelled'), it's not terribly surprising to find a New Ark lurking somewhere over there. Cairo, Illinois is apparently pronounced 'Kay-ro' and if you go there and get it wrong and say, 'The capital of Egypt's pronounced Kye-ro,' they just say, 'Well, this here's Kay-ro.'


by 57 On Red P

The original Newark in England is 'Newrk', a bit like the New Jersey one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newark-on-...

As Americans have this thing about 'pronouncing words as spelt' (or 'spelled'), it's not terribly surprising to find a New Ark lurking somewhere over there. Cairo, Illinois is apparently pronounced 'Kay-ro' and if you go there and get it wrong and say, 'The capital of Egypt's pronounced Kye-ro,' they just say, 'Well, this h

Don't forget Mos-coww and Glas-goww 😀


Ly-sester


Wymondham (pronounced wind-em)


Do not bring the Israel/Palestine thread into this one.


by Crossnerd P

Do not bring the Israel/Palestine thread into this one.

I am bringing a discussion about moderation to the thread labeled as such, I did not mention anything about the topic of Israel/Palestine.

Can we get a discussion about why people who ruin that and other threads can't be banned?


by chillrob P

I am bringing a discussion about moderation to the thread labeled as such, I did not mention anything about the topic of Israel/Palestine.

Can we get a discussion about why people who ruin that and other threads can't be banned?

Not at this time, no.


Well, I for one think it is a ridiculous policy to shut down forums because a few people consistently cause problems.


Yeah, closing a thread of an important war over a couple posters is silly. Either hand out multiple bans or extended bans, or not, but leaving it open is better.

A lot of us just arent conditioned yet to talk about this stuff but we are going to have to face it anyway because these wars arent going away.


I stopped participating in the Russia Ukraine thread a few months ago because it had the same posters causing the same problems. Had given up on the IP thread as well, but decided to check it out again under the news moderation.


by chillrob P

Well, I for one think it is a ridiculous policy to shut down forums because a few people consistently cause problems.

A few? We've had four bans from that thread alone in a matter of days, an absurd amount of timeouts, an absolute onslaught of PMs, and the post reports, and one poster going on a ridiculous personal rant against me for moderating the thread. The thread is only open now at all because I agreed to moderate it, and I've been as nice as I can be and put as much effort into it as I'm willing to. So the thread is locked for now until some of you can learn to behave, and to give me a minute to collect myself.


by Crossnerd P

A few? We've had four bans from that thread alone in a matter of days, an absurd amount of timeouts, an absolute onslaught of PMs, and the post reports, and one poster going on a ridiculous personal rant against me for moderating the thread. The thread is only open now at all because I agreed to moderate it, and I've been as nice as I can be and put as much effort into it as I'm willing to. So the thread is locked for now until some of you

I'm willing to assist in moderating it if that helps keep it open.


Thank you, I appreciate your offer, but what would help me is if everyone would even meagerly attempt to follow the very basic rules of not only that thread, but this forum. We will try again tomorrow.


I'm still mad about the Cats movie, FYI.


Truly horrible doc


by formula72 P

Yeah, closing a thread of an important war over a couple posters is silly. Either hand out multiple bans or extended bans, or not, but leaving it open is better.

A lot of us just arent conditioned yet to talk about this stuff but we are going to have to face it anyway because these wars arent going away.

This aspect of it kinda fascinates me tbh. I’m 38 and this is probably the most polarizing topic (as an American) in my lifetime and what I imagine is the closest this generation will get to what I imagine Vietnam was

From a purely observational standpoint it’s interesting to see how balls to the wall everyone is getting about it when there is no baseline and the positions are super duper extreme

Edit: this post by me added literally nothing to the topic at hand, just wanted to chuck it in there


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