ex-President Trump

ex-President Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at low-info Boomers like my religions aunts. I have two questions:

a) Is anyone here who supports Trump bothered by lies like this?

b) Does anyone know what he's even talking about here? Like is there some grain of truth that he's embellishing on bigly?

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by Montrealcorp P

Where is the claim by whom that trump and maga are considered fascist solely based on the 2020 stolen election ploy ?

Amen. All they've got is misdirection. It's pitiful. The thing is laid out in undeniable fashion, but then people can deny even that. Surreptitiously.


Lol

The Biden regime is far more fascist than anything Trump ever did. Prosecuting and trying to lock up your political opponents is pure fascism.

Again it's just more tedious projection from the left.


by Brian James P

Yeah, but what if the election was actually stolen? Is it still fascism to question it or investigate it?

By the way if you think Biden got 81 million legal votes I've got a bridge to sell you.

Let's hear how you know that the 81 to 74 million vote final count is wrong. And let's hear why in court every claim of the machines being rigged or inaccurate was retracted and/or rebuked summarily. The LOL Fascists of America unite!


Lol

You wouldn't know fascism if you fell over it. Throwing meaningless slogans around like that is more descriptive of your own ignorance than anything else.


by Brian James P

Lol

You wouldn't know fascism if you fell over it. Throwing meaningless slogans around like that is more descriptive of your own ignorance than anything else.

I'll take that as surrender on the substantive point. And so will everyone else not invested in the scam. Got a little problem with Hillary and Barack do you ... to the point of "reality be damned?"


by Brian James P

Lol

The Biden regime is far more fascist than anything Trump ever did. Prosecuting and trying to lock up your political opponents is pure fascism.

Again it's just more tedious projection from the left.

Again deflection ?
So u don’t deny trump is fascist ?

For Biden, 1 thing do not make fascism .
What else u got on Biden ?
Btw is Biden controlling the judicial system or not ?
Cause wernt you saying he was senile and barely knows where he was half the time ?

Remember trump 2016 ?
« Lock her up ! »
Problem is Hillary , contrary to trump , didn’t really do anything wrong much ….


by Brian James P

Yeah, but what if the election was actually stolen? Is it still fascism to question it or investigate it?

By the way if you think Biden got 81 million legal votes I've got a bridge to sell you.

Stolen like the 2016 election was stolen from Hillary via the Russians(and Cambridge analytica)?

You believe that one was stolen too or do they only steal it for Biden and not Trump


by FellaGaga-52 P

I'll take that as surrender on the substantive point. And so will everyone else not invested in the scam. Got a little problem with Hillary and Barack do you ... to the point of "reality be damned?"

You can take it as whatever you want but there is plenty of evidence that the 2020 election was stolen.

Start with these 2 books. Page after page of evidence. Too much for me to summarise.

https://www.amazon.com/Debunked-Professi...

https://www.amazon.com/Rigged-Media-Demo...

No idea what you mean with the Hillary and Barack comment.


by Brian James P

Page after page of evidence.


This presented to the courts would be a slam dunk. Yes?


by Brian James P

You can take it as whatever you want but there is plenty of evidence that the 2020 election was stolen.

Start with these 2 books. Page after page of evidence. Too much for me to summarise.

https://www.amazon.com/Debunked-Professi...

So why they didn’t bring it to court ?
Anyone can write books .
Books aren’t evidences .

Do u at least are happy or believe the judicial system needs evidence to condemn something/someone ?
Or should it all be based on opinions and political script like in China and other anti democratic countries like that ?


There's so much evidence, I can't even provide you a summary of what it is! What a joke.


Denial about Donald Trump has reached a new low

Joe Biden’s age receives far more coverage than Trump’s declarations
that if he returns to the White House he will detain and deport millions of
people and allow Vladimir Putin’s Russia to “do whatever the hell they want.”

Dwelling in denial is the default mode for millions who have taken
our freedoms for granted and don’t want to think about how their lives
would be altered by the advent of authoritarian governance in America.

Authoritarians have often told us what they are going to do,
but people have rarely believed them, or they have felt that since they didn’t
fit the profile of those the autocrat was targeting, they wouldn’t be affected.

Even when democracy dies by coup, and the repression is heavy and immediate,
some underestimate the impact and view the situation as merely temporary.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opin...


Deporting every single illegal immigrant should be a legal mandate for anyone governing, it's incredible that telling people "I will apply the law than congress wrote as it's my moral and legal obligation to do" can be considered authoritarian.

Absurd how some people complete rape the basic idea of the rule of law


Let 'em Stay.

What's wrong with that?


by King Spew P

Let 'em Stay.

What's wrong with that?

That's a debate about preferences.

But the "let's deport every ****ing One of them" preference isn't authoritarian, unless every time anyone wants the democratically passed law, constitutionally confirmed law, applied, that's authoritarian on any topic.

It is just an absolutely perfectly compatible with democracy preference which you happen to disagree with.

The horror, the obscenity, is one side claiming the preferences of the other side are illicit when they objectively aren't.

That's hatred for the democratic process, it is the literal attempt to claim that only what the left prefers is democratic, everything else isn't. Which isn't compatible with civil society


If you don't fully accept that any single outcome which is constitutional is perfectly allowed and compatible with democracy no matter how much you dislike it, you hate democracy and you are inimical to the core values of the west and incompatible with civil society


holy **** get a friend


by Luciom P

If you don't fully accept that any single outcome which is constitutional is perfectly allowed and compatible with democracy no matter how much you dislike it, you hate democracy and you are inimical to the core values of the west and incompatible with civil society

I prefer open borders over democracy


by Luciom P

Deporting every single illegal immigrant should be a legal mandate for anyone governing, it's incredible that telling people "I will apply the law than congress wrote as it's my moral and legal obligation to do" can be considered authoritarian.

Absurd how some people complete rape the basic idea of the rule of law

And about a president that do not respect the law ?


by The Horror P

I prefer open borders over democracy

You really prefer a policy you agree with to democracy? That's eversive


by Montrealcorp P

And about a president that do not respect the law ?

Courts exist for that reason and if they find him guilty he should rot in prison


by Luciom P

Courts exist for that reason and if they find him guilty he should rot in prison

Half the country will disagree with you if that happens …
They don’t believe in courts and how they function .

I’m glad you on our side for this one .


by Montrealcorp P

Half the country will disagree with you if that happens …
They don’t believe in courts and how they function .

I’m glad you on our side for this one .

I have always been on the rule of law side which is very very very rarely the left side of any country


by Luciom P

You really prefer a policy you agree with to democracy? That's eversive

I prefer a moral, practical solution to a problem that isn't really a problem over majority rule, yes.

The problem with immigration isn't the illegality of the behavior. The problem is sheltering and feeding them. Don't shelter and feed them and they won't come as much.

Should the government be telling landlords to whom they ought not rent housing or employers who they ought not employ? Hell no.

If they wanna live here and work, go for it. If they'd rather live under a bridge here than in a Venezuelan shack, OK. If they commit violent crimes, prosecute and deport them.


by The Horror P

I prefer a moral, practical solution to a problem that isn't really a problem over majority rule, yes.

The problem with immigration isn't the illegality of the behavior. The problem is sheltering and feeding them. Don't shelter and feed them and they won't come as much.

Should the government be telling landlords to whom they ought not rent housing or employers who they ought not employ? Hell no.

If they wanna live here and work, go for it. If

What about SCOTUS rulings that legally forced you to educate their kids for example? Or to take them all into the ER if needed at taxpayers expense?

You can't talk as if that wasn't the rule of the land, because it is.

Then there is the detail of their children being American citizens if they are born there which makes them relatives of a citizen so you have to give them stuff once they become legal residents and so on.

At absolute 0 welfare an with no path to citizenship for them or their offspring I would agree with you, but that's not the world we live in


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