Israel/Palestine thread
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I might be wrong. I take back my claim
But clearly anyone who is apart of volunteer forces becomes a combatant. I think this prob makes more Israelis combatants than people will be comfortable with
Civilians with guns are not the same as people in the military. They are also not the same as civilians without guns, because by picking up the guns they have become combatants.
FWIW I don't think that "soldier" is even a term widely used in the Geneva Conventions, the main distinguishing factor is combatants and civilians.
Soldier = armed forces
Armed forces = not civilian
Civilians with guns aren’t armed forces unless they are organized and commanded as listed above
https://guide-humanitarian-law.org/conte....
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There are plenty of fighters in Hamas that that is their job. They train and do soldier things for a living. Hamas either puts them up or pays them. These are not just reservists that train one weekend a month or something.
https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/mee...
The number of muslims joining the idf has steadily increased the past few years
As I've stated, muslim citizens of Israel generally love Israel
The thought that rockets are being shot from rafah this week, but you (pw) believe Israel cannot respond because gaza has "no military" is so preposterous that I'm going to assume you are joking
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/egypt...
Documents show that for at least the past 10 years Egypt has tried to destroy tunnels
I kind of like the canal idea tbh
I know you're already taking that with a grain of salt, but just look at how meaningless that is.
If Israel controls most of the tunnels (estimates are they have found 1/3 at the moment) then there's probably very few Hamas leaders left living.
Under this situation Israel MIGHT let those leaders go into exile.
What that really means is that if Israel can gain control of most of the tunnels then Israel can do whatever they want. Not really any
Just wanted to chime in on this area that Dunyain brought up and you're replying to.
There's no "might" here. There's a standing offer, and one so public that Bibi is saying it on Podcasts now.
Hostages + drop your weapons = you get to live in exile untouched for life, and the war ends
Obviously there is no way Hamas accepts.
This is what I've been waiting for, and FINALLY closes the obvious loop that some in here were trying to deny exists
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/iran-supreme-l...
Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is thanking college students in the U.S. for joining Tehran’s “resistance front” against Israel and the U.S. with their protests over the mounting death toll in Gaza. He went on to praise them as newfound allies of Iran, writing: “You have now formed a branch of the Resistance Front and have begun an honorable struggle in the face of your government's ruthless pressure.”
In addition to battling the U.S. government and Israel, he used a common antisemitic trope to note that the “resistance front” is also taking on “the global Zionist elite–who owns most U.S. and European media corporations or influences them through funding and bribery.”
And so finally, the actual reality of what we've been saying in here for months or longer is spelled out crystal clear. Welcome campus protestors! Iran embraces you as one of theirs!
The Russia-Iran-NK-proxy axis will prove itself out given enough time.
lol yeah, the "Axis of Evil" nonsense will finally be vindicated any day now. We really are just speedrunning through the last 20 years of the Iraq War.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/egypt...
Documents show that for at least the past 10 years Egypt has tried to destroy tunnels
I kind of like the canal idea tbh
But that talks about a program to destroy tunnels from 2011-2015. El-Sisi arrives in 2014 (and it's been him ever since).
I'm suggesting maybe under him, things start to shift. This "leak" smells a little. And what is messed up is we're not seeing lots of tunnel destruction documentation from say 2020-2023....
lol yeah, the "Axis of Evil" nonsense will finally be vindicated any day now. We really are just speedrunning through the last 20 years of the Iraq War.
I'd be interested in hearing you debate (with robust fact) what some of the smartest geopolitical minds on earth give incredible talks on. I could grab 3 engaging podcasts from voices on the left about this, but I don't know that you or anyone else would listen to them.
But to be clear, are you suggesting that the alliance between Russia, Iran+proxies, NK etc and their shared objectives, doesn't exist? They don't arm each other and support each other? Their relationship isn't as real as say the one people outline between the USA and Israel? Their shared goals of global disruption/chaos aren't real?
Axis of Rogues, Axis of Disruption, it's getting all manner of names as it's evolving and studied. But this isn't even a hidden axis in the slightest. They supply and help each other very publicly. I'm sort of amazed we may even need to debate it.
But that talks about a program to destroy tunnels from 2011-2015. El-Sisi arrives in 2014 (and it's been him ever since).
I'm suggesting maybe under him, things start to shift. This "leak" smells a little. And what is messed up is we're not seeing lots of tunnel destruction documentation from say 2020-2023....
Yes there definitely could have been some nefarious activity on egypt's part. But now that it's out there .. the canal idea is good
Of course it is real rafiki
