Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.

This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.

Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.

Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.

So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.

Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.

So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.

We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.

Thanks.

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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Jalfrezi and Victor have a similar posting style and seemingly identical views, such as thinking that calling people "liberals" in the classical liberal sense is an insult. Still, I refuse to believe they are the same person. That would mean that in addition to the 75K or so posts that Victor by himself has accumulated on just 2p2 on that one account, he also has other accounts with posts in the five figures. I just don't want to believe that he is on here every waking second of every day.


by Luckbox Inc P

Do you think that covid is no longer a relevant discussion topic for P&S?

Maybe we can get a special covid mod iike we did have with Israel?

Lol at editing my post. Isn't this the general discussion thread?


And when do we get to discuss the insane Russia/Ukraine ruling that also took place?

You guys really are out of control.

Missing the Browser days. Somehow that was better.


by DonkJr P

Jalfrezi and Victor have a similar posting style and seemingly identical views, such as thinking that calling people "liberals" in the classical liberal sense is an insult. Still, I refuse to believe they are the same person. That would mean that in addition to the 75K or so posts that Victor by himself has accumulated on just 2p2 on that one account, he also has other accounts with posts in the five figures. I just don't want to believe t

I have 0 clue if they are the same person (currently, they clearly weren't when both accounts were active), but i am 98% sure 2 different people wrote on the jalfrezi account in the last 24 hours for the very specific reasons stated.


by Luciom P

there is information that the jalfrezi account is more than one person, see I/P thread where he answered in a way (very calm and "analytic" way), then 12 hours later ( european morning) he answered in a totally different way (very confrontational/trolling/inflaming) to 4 posts he had passed by previously.

Not much of a drinker, huh, kid?


by Luciom P

I have 0 clue if they are the same person (currently, they clearly weren't when both accounts were active), but i am 98% sure 2 different people wrote on the jalfrezi account in the last 24 hours for the very specific reasons stated.

This conversation ends now. Further posts will be deleted.


by Luciom P

I have 0 clue if they are the same person (currently, they clearly weren't when both accounts were active), but i am 98% sure 2 different people wrote on the jalfrezi account in the last 24 hours for the very specific reasons stated.

Coolio dude. You've made many posts now saying the same thing over...and over...and over again.

This being a gambling forum I expect you'd like to make a bet on this. What odds do you suggest?


by ganstaman P

This conversation ends now. Further posts will be deleted.

Why is this something that needs moderation?

Who cares?


Why does a dog lick his balls?


by jalfrezi P

Why does a dog lick his balls?

Because they're there I guess


by jalfrezi P

Coolio dude. You've made many posts now saying the same thing over...and over...and over again.

This being a gambling forum I expect you'd like to make a bet on this. What odds do you suggest?

Can I get odds that Victor got you with the ole "if you post your password you see it but everyone else sees asterisks" banana in the tailpipe?


by Luckbox Inc P

Because they're there I guess

Because he can.


by jalfrezi P

Coolio dude. You've made many posts now saying the same thing over...and over...and over again.

This being a gambling forum I expect you'd like to make a bet on this. What odds do you suggest?

Fairly hard to agree on what can be done to verify/deny what happened.

But not answering some posts while answering others, in a calm and discoursive way, then 12 hours later going 4 quick answers in a completely different tone quoting spots you bypassed before is very very very sus.

Btw I think the guy who wrote the quick nasty responses is the actual jalfrezi who deeply despises me, the one at European morning hours, it's the other calm and analytic one which I can't pinpoint


by Luciom P

Fairly hard to agree on what can be done to verify/deny what happened.

But not answering some posts while answering others, in a calm and discoursive way, then 12 hours later going 4 quick answers in a completely different tone quoting spots you bypassed before is very very very sus.

Btw I think the guy who wrote the quick nasty responses is the actual jalfrezi who deeply despises me, the one at European morning hours, it's the other calm and

No, it's pretty simple to agree on it and you don't get to flake out that easily.

If the mods with their very clever IP detection kit can tell us, would that suffice?


ITT Luciom learns that humans can be in different moods 12 hours apart.


by Luckbox Inc P

Why is this something that needs moderation?

Who cares?

Because this is just posting about another poster which is already bordering on being insults. Such discussions aren't on topic here, and they tend to lead to just yelling back and forth.

However, as jalfrezi seems cool with it, I'll let it go.


by ganstaman P

Because this is just posting about another poster which is already bordering on being insults. Such discussions aren't on topic here, and they tend to lead to just yelling back and forth.

However, as vicfrezi seems cool with it, I'll let it go.

FYP.


I very very much doubt Jalfresi is vic, seriously


by corpus vile P

I very very much doubt Jalfresi is vic, seriously

There's your problem.


by ganstaman P

Because this is just posting about another poster which is already bordering on being insults. Such discussions aren't on topic here, and they tend to lead to just yelling back and forth.

However, as jalfrezi seems cool with it, I'll let it go.


Well nobody is taking Luciom seriously and I suppose it makes sense that you would consider comparisons to Vic as an insult but not everyone actually feels that way.


#VicDerangementSyndrome is real


If another poster said they suspected I was Victor, my first concern would be that I had forgotten all the rules of grammar and punctuation and lost my ability to write in complete, coherent sentences. And that I had started punctuating my posts with "ya", in the style of a 12 year old texting his friends.


by Brian James P

Yeah, kind of a childish response really. You wonder what they are so scared of when any discussion of a particular topic is banned.

Speaking of posters who would be insta permabanned if atrocious posting were against the rules, hey there BJ.


by ganstaman P

Because this is just posting about another poster which is already bordering on being insults. Such discussions aren't on topic here, and they tend to lead to just yelling back and forth.

However, as jalfrezi seems cool with it, I'll let it go.

In fact no, I'm not at all cool with having my identity constantly questioned like this by these two posters. It's just another form of the bullying they were indulged in with vic.

The rules clearly state, and were restated by crossnerd, that posters are to address the contents of posts and not constantly harp on about posters' attributes, real or imagined.


..Or maybe I'm wrong. 😃


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