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In other news

In the current news climate we see that some figures and events tend to dominate the front-pages heavily. Still, there are important, interesting or just plain weird things happening out there and a group of people can find these better than one.

I thought I would test with a thread for linking general news articles about "other news" and discussion. Perhaps it goes into the abyss that is page 2 and beyond, but it is worth a try.

Some guidelines:
- Try to find the "clean link", so that links to the news site directly and not a social media site. Avoid "amp-links" (google).
- Write some cliff notes on what it is about, especially if it is a video.
- It's not an excuse to make outlandish claims via proxy or link extremist content.
- If it's an editorial or opinion piece, it is polite to mark it as such.
- Note the language if it is not in English.
- There is no demand that such things be posted here, if you think a piece merits its own thread, then make one.

12 October 2020 at 08:13 AM
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surreal headline by Sky here

Police officer stabbed during attack at far-right rally dies

https://news.sky.com/story/germany-knife...

An islamist terrorist from afghanistan attacked with a knife and killed a police officer, and they go with "stabbed during attack at far-right rally".

Down in the article, after ads, you can read that an Afghan "suspect" was shot and wounded. The "suspect" was on video stabbing everyone lol. Also because the police arrested the civilian who was trying to stop the terrorist before they dealt with the terrorist , as per video i put before ITT.


Largest pandemic funds fraud (240 millions) according to the FBI happened in Minnesota, most defendants are Somali immigrants (only 1 defendant name isn't Somalian, the founder of the whole operation apparently) .

They allegedly basically made up 200+ sites that were supposed to distribute food to poor children, they made up children list names and everything else, it was all only on paper

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-attorn...

They even tried to sue for racist discrimination when the payments were suspended.


Amanda Knox calunnia/criminal slander conviction upheld by Italian court
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/05/europ...



We have lower thresholds to convict of slander than the anglo world tbh, still funny because she had to come here and I can just imagine what people told her in the streets when they saw her, let's say she is not very liked around here


She's guilty af, no doubt she got away with murder. I'm happy her calunnia conviction has been upheld, although she'll probably appeal. Her lawyer, Carlo Della Vedova is kinda shady actually imo.


BREAKING NEWS: The World Health Organization warns us that a "new strain" of bird flu "has jumped" to humans with "potential for high public health impact"!!!!!! They said a man in Mexico tested positive before dying from it...

Hmmm.... I know all the conspiracy theorists would love me for this but is it not a coincidence this is happening months before a major election? I wonder if it gets out of hand if they'll let us drop our votes in all the drop boxed again.


Mask up.


by Playbig2000 P

BREAKING NEWS: The World Health Organization warns us that a "new strain" of bird flu "has jumped" to humans with "potential for high public health impact"!!!!!! They said a man in Mexico tested positive before dying from it...

Hmmm.... I know all the conspiracy theorists would love me for this but is it not a coincidence this is happening months before a major election? I wonder if it gets out of hand if they'll let us drop our votes in all

Probably the same one that I heard had jumped to cows a few weeks ago.

In Oregon we can always drop out votes in a box though. Thanks much to the Republicans who were behind its implementation many years ago, back before their main strategy to win elections was suppressing the vote.


by Playbig2000 P

BREAKING NEWS: The World Health Organization warns us that a "new strain" of bird flu "has jumped" to humans with "potential for high public health impact"!!!!!! They said a man in Mexico tested positive before dying from it...

Hmmm.... I know all the conspiracy theorists would love me for this but is it not a coincidence this is happening months before a major election? I wonder if it gets out of hand if they'll let us drop our votes in all

Lockdown!!! 😮


So the FBI just admitted in court Hunter Biden's laptop is real and have authenticated parts of it relevant to their case. In fact, I have never seen anyone prove a single claim from the laptop isn't true. Which would actually be trivially easy to do.

FWIW, I dont actually care overmuch about the laptop, except for the part where it was obvious all along all the alleged material on it was true, and we had to go through years of gaslighting it was "Russian disinformation."

I will go ahead and hold my breathe and patiently wait for all the incoming "you were right, I was wrong" admissions from all the posters who spent years parroting the "Russian disinformation" narrative.


by Dunyain P

So the FBI just admitted in court Hunter Biden's laptop is real and have authenticated parts of it relevant to their case. In fact, I have never seen anyone prove a single claim from the laptop isn't true. Which would actually be trivially easy to do.

FWIW, I dont actually care overmuch about the laptop, except for the part where it was obvious all along all the alleged material on it was true, and we had to go through years of gaslighti

feel free to link the fbi statement.


i haven't seen any part of the hard drive verified as true. to my knowledge even in the republican fever dreams the "laptop" didnt exist as a laptop but just a hard drive? i feel like that should be first before you try and force the other side of the argument to start proving negatives. the issue has always been that a bunch of republican operatives had it and manipulated it over the course of months, which was also confirmed, so basically none of it can be considered useful.


I don't think anyone ever denied that Hunter Biden had a laptop. But I've never seen what people think was on it that is damning of the president.


by Slighted P

feel free to link the fbi statement.


i haven't seen any part of the hard drive verified as true. to my knowledge even in the republican fever dreams the "laptop" didnt exist as a laptop but just a hard drive? i feel like that should be first before you try and force the other side of the argument to start proving negatives. the issue has always been that a bunch of republican operatives had it and manipulated it over the course of months,


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politic...

The issue has always been that the existence of the laptop and it's content have been censored, and now the FBI is testifying the opposite of what we were allowed to say on social media years ago.


Steve Bannon to report to prison on July 1 to begin a four-month prison sentence

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show...


by Luciom P


The issue has always been that the existence of the laptop and it's content have been censored, and now the FBI is testifying the opposite of what we were allowed to say on social media years ago.

"what we were allowed to say on social media". lol some of the sites slowed the rapid spread of the ratty tabloid story for a few hours.


by Slighted P

feel free to link the fbi statement.


i haven't seen any part of the hard drive verified as true. to my knowledge even in the republican fever dreams the "laptop" didnt exist as a laptop but just a hard drive? i feel like that should be first before you try and force the other side of the argument to start proving negatives. the issue has always been that a bunch of republican operatives had it and manipulated it over the course of months,

You realize everything on the hard drive has receipts. Every email was sent to another party, where you can see exactly who it was sent to. Every drug/prostitution purchase was made with Venno or PayPal or something and has receipts. Every text message was sent to a name/number on his contact list; which again would be trivially easy to disprove.

If any part of it was altered or manipulated, and the data false, it would literally be the most trivial and easy thing to prove it. And yet no one has even bothered to try (that we know of). For all we know, the FBI, who had all the contents long before Daily Mail started breaking stories on it, quietly checked the contents, realized everything was authentic and then decided to bury it.

If you want to argue nothing on the laptop implicates Hunter or Joe are guilty of any crime beyond Hunter's drug/prostitution/gun/tax cheating then that is another argument. But that isn't the narrative the establishment chose to go with for multiple years.


by chillrob P

I don't think anyone ever denied that Hunter Biden had a laptop. But I've never seen what people think was on it that is damning of the president.

+1
All those conspiracies about links to joe biden been debunked when all witness admit they lied .
Talk about a political witch hunt by republicans who think only democrats does it ….

Ah yes….lock her up!


by Dunyain P

You realize everything on the hard drive has receipts. Every email was sent to another party, where you can see exactly who it was sent to. Every drug/prostitution purchase was made with Venno or PayPal or something and has receipts. Every text message was sent to a name/number on his contact list; which again would be trivially easy to disprove.

If any part of it was altered or manipulated, and the data false, it would literally be the

They spent literally years and millions with dubious methods to find anything tangible to link Joe Biden for a crime .
Give it up …..

It’s like the 2020 election .
With all the effort put in to make that stick , they couldn’t ….
Because yeah sorry , it was just a lie like many countless others by trump apostles …


by Dunyain P

You realize everything on the hard drive has receipts. Every email was sent to another party, where you can see exactly who it was sent to. Every drug/prostitution purchase was made with Venno or PayPal or something and has receipts. Every text message was sent to a name/number on his contact list; which again would be trivially easy to disprove.

If any part of it was altered or manipulated, and the data false, it would literally be the

why would the Trump DOJ/FBI bury the laptop if they believed everything was authentic? i assume you are of the belief that there is actual relevant information on the laptop other than a random private citizens drug addiction?


by Montrealcorp P

They spent literally years and millions with dubious methods to find anything tangible to link Joe Biden for a crime .
Give it up …..

It’s like the 2020 election .
With all the effort put in to make that stick , they couldn’t ….
Because yeah sorry , it was just a lie like many countless others by trump apostles …

Aren't you even a little curious who "the big guy" is that Hunter was holding 10% for in one of their Chinese business deals? There are multiple people on that email, who are all American citizens, and could easily clarify who it was if it wasn't Joe Biden. And yet almost 5 years later and not a single name has been floated out except Joe Biden.

The establishment can gaslight all it wants, and you can stick your head into the ground as much as you want, but very often silence says a lot more than words. By their conspicuous silence Every recepient in that email and Joe Biden himself are acting exactly as if Joe Biden was the big guy. You dont "disprove" conspiracy theories that should be trivially easy to disprove if false by refusing to ever address them.


i apologize because i dont think i've thought about this laptop story for more than 30 seconds over the last two years..

according to the timeline i found the laptop was turned into the "establishment" FBI at the end of 2019. the establishment was Trump for over another year until he actually left office.

was "the establishment" covering for biden at the order of trump? is the establishment in the room with us right now?


by Dunyain P

parroting the "Russian disinformation" narrative.

Tommy Tuberville keeps saying what Russia wants to hear

“I think Russian propaganda has made its way into the United States, unfortunately,
and it’s infected a good chunk of my party’s base,” Michael McCaul lamented.

Five days later, House Intelligence Committee Chair Mike Turner, an Ohio Republican, echoed the sentiment,
conceding that some of his GOP colleagues are peddling rhetoric that’s “directly coming from Russia.”


by Slighted P

why would the Trump DOJ/FBI bury the laptop if they believed everything was authentic? i assume you are of the belief that there is actual relevant information on the laptop other than a random private citizens drug addiction?

This is not a good faith argument, so I am not going to bother any further. Very few people fell for the gaslighting 4 years ago, and no one is falling for it right now.

I get that everyone is legally innocent until proven guilty, so I am not arguing anyone should be prosecuted for something that couldn't legally be proven. But outside the legal world, the establishment handled this very poorly and in an untrustworthy fashion, and is now dealing with the very predictable fallout.



by Dunyain P

This is not a good faith argument, so I am not going to bother any further. Very few people fell for the gaslighting 4 years ago, and no one is falling for it right now.

I get that everyone is legally innocent until proven guilty, so I am not arguing anyone should be prosecuted for something that couldn't legally be proven. But outside the legal world, the establishment handled this very poorly and in an untrustworthy fashion, and is now

again. it was TRUMP'S FBI at the time.


by chillrob P

I don't think anyone ever denied that Hunter Biden had a laptop. But I've never seen what people think was on it that is damning of the president.

You don't think anyone ever denied Hunter had a laptop?

Dozens of intel officials signed a letter stating the laptop was just "Russian disinformation"

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19...

Hunter received millions of dollars from China, with 10% going to "the big guy" which was his father, who previously claimed he was unaware of any "business deals" (bribes) between Hunter and China.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...

Not to mention all the "fact checkers" who also stated it was just Russian disinformation (when an online "fact checker" says something is just a conspiracy theory, it's most likely 100% real which has been the pattern).


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