Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.


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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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Innocent palestinians are losing limbs exclusively because Hamas uses them as human shields.

Try to tell them to stop using civilians as human shields, to stop building compounds in civilian areas and so on.

Yes it is ok, in the sense that it is absolutely acceptable and unfortunately necessary, to bomb every place where Hamas is, and if some innocent people suffer for that, it's entirely and exclusively Hamas fault, and the fault of people who don't tell Hamas to stop using human shields and don't use their power to force them to do so (for example interrupting all aid, which falls into Hamas hands anyway)


I get you are upset that

Jews are being saved
Terrorists are being killed
Proof that hamas used un schools as military bases are being uncovered

I get that it's a bad day for you jaz

But rape denial is where even you should draw the line imho


by jalfrezi P

At this time of celebration for the released hostages, let's also pay tribute to the respect that some Israeli citizens and the Israeli establishment have for press freedom:


Lol propoganda. No shame


by BOIDS P

tremendous news:

hamas are complaining that some of their top rapists were killed in the rescue operation

three cheers for the brave boys and girls of the IDF!

Four Israeli hostages kidnapped by Hamas from the Nova music festival during the group’s 7 October attacks have been rescued, Israel’s army has announced.

Those rescued are Noa Argamani, 25, Almog Meir Jan, 21, Andri Kozlov, 27, and Shlomi Ziv, 40, the Israel Defense Forces said.

They were rescued in a joint “complex” daytime operation, conducted with Israel Securities Authority and Israel Police, from two separate locations in Nuseirat, central Gaza, the IDF said.

Central gaza is surprising

I'm thinking forcing them to move from the north border is how Israel found them. They were likely in tunnels a month ago

This is why the ceasefire talks were silly.


Varoufakis now indistinguishable from the Golden Dawn


by jalfrezi P

The accusations of mass rape have been found to be fabricated. You and others were duped to bolster international support for a genocide (described as just revenge). This is generational levels of mass manipulation and brainwashing.

I don't expect you to watch it but here


This woman explores the rapes and atrocities of oct 7

It's very graphic

Edit: it won't allow it to be embedded because of how graphic it is so here's the link

https://youtu.be/zAr9oGSXgak?si=oTCeoJJh...


Women describe the rapes that occured in detail

And BELIEVE ALL WOMEN

Spoiler
Show

except Jewishwomen?

I'm asking you nicely

stop the rape denial


I don't have age verification on YT.

Are you going to read the short report I linked to which debunks the mass rape claims?

Here's one excerpt:


If the mods want to all you to post rape denial go ahead but I'm not responding to your disgusting post that discredits the women who were abused


The film was directed by Anat Stalinsky led by Sheryl Sandberg. Shooting took place in February 2024. One of the participants in the film is Amit Soussana[5][6] who was abducted to Gaza and freed in the hostage release deal in November 2023. She described the sexual assault she experienced while being held by Hamas.[7] Additionally, the film includes testimonies about rape and sexual assaults by members of ZAKA and other witnesses during the massacre at the Nova Festival and in other places in Israel where the attack took place


She is lying about the rape right?

Shut up


Lol age verification

You just don't want to hear from Jewish women who were raped because it spoils you rape denial fantasy

Have you no integrity?


https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024...


More rape testimonies

But from "zionists" so don't bother reading?


by metsandfinsfan P

If the mods want to all you to post rape denial go ahead but I'm not responding to your disgusting post that discredits the women who were abused

The squirrel Twitter account is a particularly bad one, one of the worst.


No one here is saying that rapes didn't happen. As BOIDS says, they seem to be part of every war.

The tweet I posted refute specific allegations that we all heard. Can you read it?



Have a nice life I've lost the last ounce of respect i had got you. No more responses from me.


by metsandfinsfan P

Have a nice life I've lost the last ounce of respect i had got you. No more responses from me.

lol ok refuses to read.


Metsandfinsfan, please take a timeout from this thread until 12:00 AM Eastern Time.

I am at a loss as to how to get through to some of you that PERSONAL ATTACKS and constant sniping about personalities and posters instead of topics and content IS NOT ALLOWED.

Mets this is like your fifth timeout at this point. We’re moving to bans next.

Everyone, this applies to all of you, stop making personal comments about each other.


In other news, just another day in Gaza:



by Luciom P

Tbh it's incredible that person is still alive

If he was a Jewish journalist amongst Palestinians he would be raped and killed. I applaud the kids for defending their friend from this terrorist. I applaud them for not acting like animals like other cultures would.


by jalfrezi P

In other news, just another day in Gaza:


The important thing is they got the terrorists.


by mongidig P

If he was a Jewish journalist amongst Palestinians he would be raped and killed. I applaud the kids for defending their friend from this terrorist. I applaud them for not acting like animals like other cultures would.

And law enforcement properly arrested him instead of killing him at point blank (which would have been fully morally justified as it would be with any Hamas member) , given he wasn't a lethal threat.


by mongidig P

The important thing is they got the terrorists.

I don't see any reports of terrorists being killed in those attacks, do you?


by jalfrezi P

No one here is saying that rapes didn't happen. As BOIDS says, they seem to be part of every war.

The tweet I posted refute specific allegations that we all heard. Can you read it?


I can't. The letters are too small. I have the feeling that is intentional like a legal document.


by mongidig P

If he was a Jewish journalist amongst Palestinians he would be raped and killed. I applaud the kids for defending their friend from this terrorist. I applaud them for not acting like animals like other cultures would.

Which are the cultures that act like animals?


CrossNerd it's quite complicated to avoid personal attacks for people with relatives and/or friends under terrorist threat, when someone is allowed to post unlimited Hamas propaganda in this thread, same as it was with Viktor.

Imagine someone starts posting 4-5 lies (totally fabricated things that never happened, or completely manipulated things that did happen but were completely different in reality) per day for months in the election or trump thread, about Biden.

Videos of people being violent in Argentina claiming it's DNC members. Stuff like that every day, multiple times, per months.

Would that be allowed? Because you are allowing it in this thread


by jalfrezi P

I don't see any reports of terrorists being killed in those attacks, do you?

Amongst the 210 dead I would suspect a good chunk were terrorists or terrorists supporters. I did see a video indicating they got their guy's. I'll try to find it.


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