Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.

This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.

Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.

Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.

So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.

Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.

So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.

We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.

Thanks.

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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I want to say that crossnerd moderation on this topic is not partisan.

She moderated me when I warped nicknames (adding Al- to people who like Hamas) and she moderated ppl who distort my nickname on purpose.

I would prefer a place where I can freely insult someone by nickname changes and they can do the same, but at least they are moderating this for everyone.

It's a very easy to follow rule and we can still express our eventual disgust with claims some people made so, let's all live with it. At least the moderation about this is impartial


by chezlaw P

Good stuff

I agree.


by Crossnerd P

d2_e4 will return to us in 24 hours. Friends, I give so many warnings. Please take me at my word.

Ridiculous. That you are pointing out that you are being extra reasonable when handing out an arbitrary ban is just icing on this cake.


by DonkJr P

Ridiculous. That you are pointing out that you are being extra reasonable when handing out an arbitrary ban is just icing on this cake.

I did warn the thread that I take this issue very seriously, and if someone needs a short break to reassess whether or not prioritizing the mental health of posters is tantamount to “coddling shitposters”, then so be it.

I really like d2, so it’s not something I enjoy doing. But I need everyone to be on the same page on this.


I also want to clarify that stigmatizing someone’s mental health is the issue at hand, and I consider the username issue to be separate but related. Those conversations got combined due to my own confusing edits of the thread, and I apologize for that. D2 is not on a break for the username issue. I’m sorry if that wasn’t clear.


by Crossnerd P

I know my moderation team will support me.

Sure after you backed them on the whole Victor thing...thin green line around here.


I've lifted d2's ban because I'm a softie and upon reflection maybe this whole discussion wasn't as clear as I'd meant it to be. But PLEASE guys, let us be kind to one another as much as possible. Thank you.


Thanks. For the record, my reference to "coddling" was related to not being allowed to call him "button". I didn't participate in nor reference any posting related to mental health.


by Luckbox Inc P

The only thing you're allowed to say is that Putin woke up one morning and thought "hey why not attack Ukraine today".

The mods are very serious so definitely tread lightly if you want to stray from that.

how insane is that

by jbouton P

An example for bobo to understand better...this is rogan and dr. phil discussion the pandanization of US landscape:

panoramic datamization.

scary af. scarier that people dont care. China has been caught spying on us from inside the US many times. They were even caught at a former presidents house. Chinese threat is everywhere


by d2_e4 P

Thanks. For the record, my reference to "coddling" was related to not being allowed to call him "button". I didn't participate in nor reference any posting related to mental health.

Yes, I realized that after I had a chance to reread things. I apologize for my part in that misunderstanding, and hope you won't hold it against me too much 😀


I think you should re-ban D2 for 24 hours....or ban me for 24 hours. Anyone is fine and I don't know why people are complaining about a 24 hour ban when I thought that was what we wanted.

Instead of say the completely arbitrary banning of Victor for one month..


Who is moderating the moderators?


by Luckbox Inc P

I think you should re-ban D2 for 24 hours....or ban me for 24 hours. Anyone is fine and I don't know why people are complaining about a 24 hour ban when I thought that was what we wanted.

Instead of say the completely arbitrary banning of Victor for one month..

How many days left, anyone know? I feel I have to prepare mentally for the shift.


by rafiki P

How many days left, anyone know? I feel I have to prepare mentally for the shift.

I think all of us should refrain from responding to his posts but reliably report every post he makes which violates any rules.


You mean all of them?


by Didace P

You mean all of them?

Pretty much, unless he seriously changes his modus operandi.

I'm still hoping he finds a new place to spew over that month and never returns.


by chillrob P

I think all of us should refrain from responding to his posts but reliably report every post he makes which violates any rules.

Why on earth should we do this?

Seems to me like trying to start a campaign of concerted action against another poster might fall foul of the rules.

It’s clear from your next post that you don’t want another poster posting here, but this forum doesn’t belong to you. Address the posts not the poster bruv.


by jalfrezi P

Why on earth should we do this?

Seems to me like trying to start a campaign of concerted action against another poster might fall foul of the rules.

It’s clear from your next post that you don’t want another poster posting here, but this forum doesn’t belong to you. Address the posts not the poster bruv.

Because I think he's the worst poster in the forums and he deliberately poisons every thread in which he posts. I think he should have been permabanned long ago.

You're right that the forum doesn't belong to me, but I don't attempt to quash discussions like he does.

I've said all this before, when he was still participating, and I think a majority of posters here agree with me.

But if he does come back and stops the sabotage, I won't be frivolously reporting him.


Can we please not discuss a banned poster now? He can't respond or defend himself. Discussion at the time of banning makes sense, but there's nothing to discuss now that hasn't already been said.


by chillrob P

I won't be frivolously reporting him.

This comment is not directed at you specifically, but I can say with 100% confidence that frivolous reporting of posts is an ineradicable feature of this subforum.


by Rococo P

This comment is not directed at you specifically, but I can say with 100% confidence that frivolous reporting of posts is an ineradicable feature of this subforum.

Huh, I didn't realize there was much reporting going on. Several people have said that they never report even violations which personally bother them.


by Rococo P

This comment is not directed at you specifically, but I can say with 100% confidence that frivolous reporting of posts is an ineradicable feature of this subforum.

You make a strong argument to get rid of all moderation bar the horse porn cleansing.


Na the new system is sweet. Crossnerds is crushing it.


by ganstaman P

Can we please not discuss a banned poster now? He can't respond or defend himself. Discussion at the time of banning makes sense, but there's nothing to discuss now that hasn't already been said.

Is this your opinion or a forum rule?


by jalfrezi P

You make a strong argument to get rid of all moderation bar the horse porn cleansing.

Agree


by PointlessWords P

Is this your opinion or a forum rule?

Why do you care?


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