President Joe Biden

Wait a minute, Lozen posts some verbal gaffe by Biden about once a week.
But he thinks Biden is dead?

If 'they' were going to replace him with an impostor, wouldn't they do it with someone who doesn't fumble his words and wander off?

It’s not an imposter, it’s the start of the lizard people invasion from galaxy X .

If this didn't happen every time Joe was on the world stage it might be fine. He's the only world leader not where he is supposed to be. Imagine if the nice lady didn't go to retrieve him? The effort Biden exerted and seeming degree of difficulty just to put his sunglasses on was cringe.

They'll do it once Biden locks up in the first debate.

1st debate: draw a clock challenge 2024, for both of them

Lets just pretend for a minute that we all agree with his policies. He still looks like an old pedophilic dementia patient. Now whether he is any of those things or not doesn't matter. That's what he looks like. I don't think the right wing media needs to be taking anything he does out of context. He is an embarrassment to the office.

Lol, a guy "looks like a pervert" vs the guy banging and paying off pornstars while his third wife is giving birth.

The daddy daughter public lap dance photo is…..unsettling.

which one are you talking about?

the election isn't between Biden and a perfect candidate. the election is between biden and a complete moron that says things like batteries sink boats and electrocute sharks and is only in this race to enrich himself and stay out of court. today Trump forgot the name of his doctor. said the wrong name twice. i'm not a biden fan or an eDem fan, but the choice is obvious. dont hide behind one is 3-4 years older than the other, just be courageous and just come out and say you like the racism.

I haven't seen that one! 😢

I guess that is why trump still poll so high .
Reality is less important then the perception of reality shrug .

We got a convict here but nah, the guy that look like a convict is the real problem… …

You guys all love immigration and democracy and think having as many low information people voting as possible is good. Well, guess what, low information people go off of perception, because they dont know policy and positions.

You can give a **** about people without giving them voting rights by the way.

“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” H.L. Mencken, 1920.

Dude called it 96 years in advance.

there is no need to frame it this way.

the election is simply between two very different policy platforms on how to use the (numerous and significant) powers of the president.

in both cases people are voting for a team of officials not just for POTUS. they are voting for POTUS + indirectly all the people POTUS will nominate.

and so they are voting for a party machine.

for the vast majority of people, the two parties are different enough that they have a clear preference on which set of policies is closer to their preferred ones. for you it's obviously the Democratic platform.

yes this also works for low information voters.

some people really hate illegal immigration. some people really want abortion to be as free as possible. some people want america to stop using it's militaries abroad. some people want america to be the world policeman. and so on and on.

ironically, among voters, these two blocks are distributed in such a way that the election (going through EC votes) nowadays is very close every time.

and so it's up to the few who consider the two platforms very similar (they like something of one and something of the other).

people hating both platforms, or thinking everyone is corrupt in politics and so on don't matter.

so both teams are after the elusive 1-2-3-4-5% of actual voters (depending on the state) who, unlike most other voters, think there is good in both platforms and are undecided while they still intend to vote.

those people are WEIRD. REALLY WEIRD. there is the obama-trump-biden voter which none of us possibly ever met in real life (but they exist). there is the romney-clinton-biden voter who fears the Democratic party more today and hates Trump but he wants to vote at all costs and wants his vote to matter.
there are the voters who voted third party when they lived in a state that wasn't close, as a signal to the establishment, who now moved to a state where their vote matter and aren't sure.

and so on.

it's only them looking at character, signs of dementia and so on FOR REAL not as theater.

most Democratic party voters would vote for a convincted pedophile, or serial rapist as president if it means democratic judge nominations, democratic secretaries, democratic foreign policy and democratic immigration policy. you would slighted. you would vote for the most horrendous person as a democratic candidate vs the most splendid person as a republican candidate. and it's fine because you care about abortion, immigration and so on

same for republicans of course. most of them would vote Satan for republican over Jesus as democratic candidate because of abortion, the 2a, illegal immigrants, green climate frauds, BLM, mutilation of minors and so on

so when discussing among us, given there are no undecided, why lie? there is no need to make Biden appear in better shape than he is at all, no one on this forum (among those who live in the USA) would change his mind even if Biden was diagnosed as completely demented. they would still vote for Biden/Harris as they prefer them to Trump

It’s not because you could, it means anyone else would be so despicable….
That is what differentiate you and me and probably as a whole maga/fascist and regular people .
I would do the right thing even if it was against my interest just because it’s the right thing to do .
So no ,I rather would lose an election then to have that kind of leaders obviously..

I think that Trump being in the election makes it more about him personally than it has been in any previous presidential elections in my lifetime. Plenty of people (including me) just consider him so despicable as a person they could never support him. I couldn't bring myself to vote for him even if I agreed with him on every major political issue.
And then some people seem to support him just on his cult of personality, regardless of whether or not they support most of his policies. Many of his supporters probably couldn't tell you what a good number of his policies have been. Last week if you had asked Trump supporters who had enacted the law prohibiting bump stocks, I would bet everything I own that most would say it had been a Democrat.

Luciom, I'm confused - how are the majority of voters simultaneously super rational actors making educated decisions based on policy preferences, and low information dunces who wouldn't know a policy if it bit them in the ass?

ETA: Apologies, actually it was Dunyain who said they were low info. I take it you disagree with this view?

They are low info on the details but high info on the direction.

IE they know republicans will protect the 2a more than democrats. That democrats will work to make abortion viable more than republicans. And so on.

For ex they might have no clue on the details of Obamacare yet know that democrats want to cover more people with healthcare at taxpayers expense

as a dumb person, this makes sense to me

It's not a nice thing to do but there's nothing perverted about that. When you marry a playboy billionaire what do you think is gonna happen? The choice between banging a hot porn star or your miserable pregnant wife is not a difficult one.

Let me confirm I think Biden is alive and have never said he was dead

The problem is we have been given two ridiculous options to vote for. If the Democrats gave us a younger more stable option perhaps Trump wouldn't have a chance. As long as we are living in the upside down world we might as well get Trump back in there. At least he doesn't look like an elderly Fire Marshal Bill. Hopefully there is not a pandemic during the next four years.

Democrats aren't stupid, if there was a candidate with better chances than Biden he would be the candidate