The costs of trans visibility

so you think luciom has a time machine and went back to the beginning of recorded history to start a culture and tradition of segregating by sex just so he could have a convenient excuse to discriminate against trans people thousands of years later?

I assumed all segregation was done by sex and not gender because sex is immutable.

I don't, but it would remove the scapegoat. I know it's asking way too much but: don't be a bitch. If you're afraid of something or don't like them, say it. Don't try to play word games and skirt the law to **** over people you don't like and claim you have no bias against them. It's absurd.

We don't like men being allowed to fake their unprovable gender to get housed with women and rape them, in prisons.

We also don't like men who actually feels they are women but are very violent and still have dicks to be housed with women in prisons because those women have rights as well.

There is no word game it's all very transparent. The semantic rapists are all on your side on this topic.

this is grasping at straws imo

i can't speak for luciom - but wanting biological women to be able to compete amongst themselves etc is not mutually exclusive with accepting trans people

look at it this way, are you racist if turn down a sexual advance from someone of another race? of course not. Obviously, the reason for turning down the sexual advance could be due to racism, yet there's many genuine and plausible reasons for turning down sex with someone of another race that has nothing to do with their race or your feelings towards their race - to the extent that it's be absolutely ludicrous to claim that someone is racist simply based on the input of a single sexual rejection

classic case of bullying that many of your cohort exhibit, an all or nothing approach that leaves no room for nuance and just labels any dissent as rooted in bigotry - and you take it way too far, to the point where you're advocating coed prisons which is just insane

The status quo is sex segregation, not gender. There have been a couple exceptions. You guys are grasping at the exceptions. Why?

I don't think it's transphobic to say biological male humans have physical advantages in sports compared to women. I'm pretty ignorant on sex and gender and am unfamiliar with any people who advocate for gender segregation rather than sex. That seems like an untenable position.

you keep using the word "segregation" as if it was a negative but it isn't for prison

man for prisons the people who say "trans women should be women under the law" want to allow self identified "women" into actual biological women prisons.

We disagree and you are calling us transphobic

first if it's hatred, then it's not phobia. call me transhating. Phobia is about fear. You don't get to decide the meaning of words.

second, prove where there is hatred in my posts against transgender people, or apologize.

I have plenty of posts showing a deep hatred for radical leftists, for terrorists, for violent criminals sure. Trans people? not at all.

Trans activists? sure i deeply hate them because they are radical leftists, not because some of them are trans.

Okay so you don't hate trans, but you hate trans activists. I'll take your word for it. I won't put the effort in to summarize a reply. Your body of work is proof enough. I hope you can break out of your fear prison.

I hate radical leftist trans activists to be clear.

there are people discussing trans issues who aren't radical leftists.

In a fallen world, inclusion as the highest moral value is only desirable for children. Only in a paradise should inclusion be the highest value for all.

This new Woke religion that makes inclusion the highest moral value for adults - it’s the wide path which leads to destruction in a fallen world. There seems to be a fatal idea which has captured the Woke: inclusion has the power to transform a fallen world into a paradise.

Christendom has also struggled with this fallen world problem using a two world solution. If this world is fallen, and the solution is to journey to the promised paradise, then how does that not lead to forsaking this fallen world rather than redeeming it? Christianity offers the human being and human potential as the ultimate solution. The human being can divide himself and keep one part of himself in the fallen world while another part of himself seeks out the promised land. Once paradise is accessed, then the human being unifies, bringing forth paradise into the formerly fallen world.

In sum, there are two competing visions for solving the fallen world problem. The Woke offer inclusion. Christianity offers the Hero’s Journey. The former is more enticing because it’s much less difficult. However, it’s false and only leads to destruction.

anybody that parades in the street is annoying

Personally, I think i've done my best to call a trans person what they want to be called and even correct myself if I said what was interpreted as inappropriate, but the linguistics aren't the issue. It's harmless to think that the earth is flat, but you can start ****ing things up when you when you start telling folks, for the purpose of inclusion, that hurricanes aren't real because the coriolis effect doesn't exist.

the same people advocating for coed prisons in the name of inclusion are the same people who protest when schools teach both creationism and evolution side by side

In a burning building, the promotion of inclusion is evil. So for those who mindlessly hold up inclusion as the highest moral value, I would ask, are you sure you know where we are?

The marginalized are meant to be the scouts who go out and seek higher meanings, a higher purpose, and ultimately the promised land. I speak from personal experience as one of the marginalized.

Obviously I think this should never happen, per when I mentioned throwing away the key.

I don't think it is possible to "rehabilitate" many rapists or murderers. But even if it were, I wouldn't want to give them the chance and it makes no sense to me how anyone would want that to happen.

A fringe position held by Christian Nationalists and evangelicals to teach biblical creationism in public schools doesn't have much to do with trans visibility. I guess most people who support that would hate trans folks?

Are you familiar with the justice system in the US? Most rapists aren't prosecuted and those that are will almost certainly be released as the typical sentence is 4-15 years. They must be rehabilitated.

We are saying rape should automatically get the death penalty it's incredible it doesn't.

They can't be rehabilitated and even if they could sometimes at an enormous cost for society, it's morally monstrous to spend anything on the worst people in society to begin with

There's no correlation. It's not inclusive to teach Christian creationism in public schools. It's discriminatory. It would be inclusive to teach a class like "World Religions/Cultures".