WSOP Senior Hand (very annoying)

Why do you think an EP OMC open is going to be so wide? I would think top 15% at least, probably tighter, especially if he has been limping pf too.

I probably fold. But if ep is truly opening 33% maybe not.

Leaning fold vs. this event's population. Gotta range the reshover TT-KK, AK here. If UTG is a bad OMC, is he really opening top 33% of the hands? That sounds a tad optimistic.

I echo what both previous posters say. I'm confused at the read on the EP opener, I would think the run of the mill OMC raising 3x from EP off of sub 25bb is closer to 10% like AT+ 77+ KQ+ at worst. I work with a lot of these types of players and listen to their peers in hand discussions and routinely hear many of them who talk about limping suited royalty hands in EP and not even playing AT, 77, KQ so one could argue it's even tighter.

On to the guy who rips 36bb, that's AK+ JJ+ in this event as well, I think you have a relatively trivial fold here with JJ and honestly would consider folding QQ with your huge stack and perceived skill edge in such a soft field.

On the bright side I wasn't the OMC in question...

OMC in EP has AQ+/TT+ if he has been limping before. If he isn't limping much if at all then AJ+/99+/KQ/possibly Suited Broadways. And the lower PP will happen less frequently than the higher ones. I lean towards PP like 99-JJ because the sizing indicates he doesn't want a call but sometimes it is also AK wanting to take it down preflop rather than have to play OOP.

The guy who jammed for 36 bb's doesn't want to play postflop with AK or QQ and he doesn't want anybody calling except maybe OMC. I doubt he is doing it with 88-TT but that might be why he jammed.

I think I fold <=TT and call >=QQ and JJ is the hand that is read dependent. I lean towards folding here but sometimes my hands shove all of my chips in before I can outtalk myself.

You would think it isn't KK+ on the 3-bet because he would want calls or wouldn't mind playing it postflop.

Clear fold. I think our call off range here is at most QQ+, AK, and I wouldn't be all that pumped about AKo or QQ tbh. The only reason I'd be somewhat tempted is that often times these bigger MP jams over EP opens tend to heavily weight towards AK/AQ and we're actually not doing poorly against that specific range. It's more likely that than KK or AA, which may elect to 3-bet small, and there are more big Ax hands than QQ obviously.

OK thanks so far.

EP OMC and I have been at the table since hand #1. We are now at 1K so that’s over 7 hours of play at 1 hour levels starting at 100/100/100. I have seen 30-40 hands of his as he always shows. He should have busted 4-5 times but kept spiking his high card on the turn or river. He has any A, any pair, and any 2 broadway. No suited connectors or low cards.

In game my gut was not happy but I simply couldn’t fathom KK+ ripping 36 bigs here? I’ve not seen that before in any Sr event I played. If my range for him is QQ-TT and AK/AQ then this is a call right?

Almost 8,000 entrants and an opportunity to pick up over 40 BBs is very significant even with the variance.

I’ll post results later.

I'd honestly expect V2 to call with TT and maybe even JJ (hell how many times have we heard the local game discourse of "I hate pocket jacks!") I'd also be quite surprised to see V2 show up with AQ. If his range is in fact TT+ AQ+ like you said and the OR is as wide as you say then yes, JJ would likely be bottom of our get in range, but I think we can poke holes in the TT/JJ/AQ portions of said range.

Also, you have 4 starting stacks in one of the softer bracelet events of the summer, I think you should be leaning towards passing on close spots with your skill edge + stack in this sort of field knowing you can really leverage your edge and stack early Day 2 approaching bubble.

I think this is great advice for such a marginal spot. I also think the read on EP actually makes this more of a fold because this player type will often capitalize on perceived weakness/looseness of other players by making non GTO shoves. I would not rule AA/KK if MP thinks he can get full value. Even if it goes call, fold, MP turns over AK, we are flipping for half our stack.

I was playing 2/5 recently and 3 bet a maniac with AK, OMC snap 4 bet jammed 100 BBs, maniac snap called, and I sigh called to see the OMC (AJ) had been isolating the maniac (86s).

Two of my students finished ~70th and ~90th right near you so you may have run into them. Last thought on the hand, where we assume most rational/standard players would put in a non-allin 3/4bet with AA or KK sometimes the seniors crowd surprises me with just outright ripping in these spots so not completely shocked. Hell of a run, congrats and best of luck in the 5k upcoming.