Climate Change - increasingly horrible disasters loom

Climate Change - increasingly horrible disasters loom

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there is so much out there about this - I don't really need to provide a lot of sources - a quick google search will find you thousands of links

of course there are the climate change deniers

and there are those who say what little we can do won't be nearly enough

just one link:

from the article:


"Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree*: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. "



couldn't resist one more link - story about Siberia, one of the coldest places on earth where there is human habitation - they now face 100 degree days and multiple wildfires caused by them

https://eos.org/articles/siberian-heat-w....

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18 July 2021 at 08:52 AM
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by NLOmahaHL P

And this:


If they want to lie they can claim this.

Do you understand that winter kills, a lot? A lot more people die in the winter than in hotter months? Because of the cold? Which part of that isn't obvious to you, which part is controversial?


This is worldwide

Query is "which kills more people extreme cold"


mage...] at 20:1 ratio, worldwide

On Google which skews ultra pro climate change activism.

First answer, snippet, no fishing around.

It's not controversial


You're so brainbroken. And who is "They"???!!!

Read up on endotherms:


Here's the link: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/vet....


by NLOmahaHL P

Peer review this!


cold kills a lot of people even when not extreme that's the point.


Is the Washington post left enough for you?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/...


In every western nation, more people die in winter than in the summer. That is because the cold seasons kills more than the hot season (a lot more). This is uncontroversial and confirmed by anyone who ever looked at seasonal mortalitynrates.

That means cold kills more human beings that heat in our countries. That means warming SAVES HUMAN LIVES in our countries. Grandpa is going to live more if it is hotter.

Which is why those who can retire in Florida not in ****ing Minnesota. Because cold kills. And warming SAVES lives


by Luciom P

In every western nation, more people die in winter than in the summer. That is because the cold seasons kills more than the hot season (a lot more). This is uncontroversial and confirmed by anyone who ever looked at seasonal mortalitynrates.

That means cold kills more human beings that heat in our countries. That means warming SAVES HUMAN LIVES in our countries. Grandpa is going to live more if it is hotter.

Which is why those who can retire

Only thing killing you and Grandpa is a recurring UTI.


Bye troll


by Luciom P

In every western nation, more people die in winter than in the summer. That is because the cold seasons kills more than the hot season (a lot more).

Uhhhhhh.

Please fill in the data for men that wear mustaches and dying in the cold. Might as well add women too.

Death *DUE TO* heat/cold exposure would be even MORE sensational.


by Luciom P

hot is less of a problem because you stay in the shadow, and/or under AC, and/or in a building built with proper techniques (which exist since many centuries ago).

ofc if for some insane reason you stay under the sun it becomes a problem. just don't though, not complicated.

at -8 you can play outside lolmg

you are Canadian right?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article...


cold kills more people (and this is only about excesses, then

Indians live for thousands of years in cold weather no problem in North America .
Even eskimos in extreme cold .
Not sure at 45 degrees in the desert u could say the same .

Btw not all humans have ac, decent home to live in , etc .
Ps: not much shadow in the desert or similar geographic .

Pps: bad uses of data to try to make your point , especially with Canada .
Canada isn’t a good example to use for a barometer for « heat death ».
We don’t have many 45+Degrees days here like u can in many other countries where the danger is a real thing .


by Luciom P

And those aren't increasing in intensity or frequency worldwide because of climate change. I am aware of significant attempts to try to "prove" it by leftists, i am also aware of the statistical tricks they try to employ to prove that (very similar to the tricks used by some economics paper to try to prove whatever you want to prove "causally"), i wrote before what they do , and it's clear to me and should be clear to anyone with some basis

When all scientific data and experiment in climate change is backed up by like 99% of all papers, it isn’t about right or left it’s just fact .


The libertarian economic are far from having the same success rates in experimentations.

Again you never told us why you believe science in climate would actually being so dominant by socialist and not in other scientific field ?
Your take on many subject about science is incredibly tainted by your politics while you try imply they do the same .
Science do not work like that and every scientist would love to discover something big , win the Nobel price and be named in history books .
Yet the stance you take isn’t even backed up by 1% scientist .
I don’t understand how u can speak with such confidence with such poor evidences shrug .

Maybe a good reminder on how and what science is ?

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The scientific method isn’t an opinion like luciom loves to promote shrug


by Montrealcorp P

When all scientific data and experiment in climate change is backed up by like 99% of all papers, it isn’t about right or left it’s just fact .


The libertarian economic are far from having the same success rates in experimentations.

Again you never told us why you believe science in climate would actually being so dominant by socialist and not in other scientific field ?
Your take on many subject about science is incredibly tainted by your p

you have read all the science papers!!??


by wreckem713 P

you have read all the science papers!!??

We already went on that road …..
It’s been reported everywhere .
They made some experiment as well throughout a bunch of paper picked blindly .
Like over 3k reviewed papers and like 8 on 3k were not following the consensus of climate changes .

What can I say , when the science is at 99% , I’m bias to claim they are right .
It’s dumb isn’t ?

Fwiw is just another source .

https://theconversation.com/the-97-clima...

Published: October 28, 2021 3.15pm EDT

The ‘97% climate consensus’ is over. Now it’s well above 99% (and the evidence is even stronger than that)

But we know u won’t bother to read of course .
If u did u would stop making those ridiculous « gotcha » post which are often terrible frankly .


by Montrealcorp P

We already went on that road …..
It’s been reported everywhere .
They made some experiment as well throughout a bunch of paper picked blindly .
Like over 3k reviewed papers and like 8 on 3k were not following the consensus of climate changes .

What can I say , when the science is at 99% , I’m bias to claim they are right .
It’s dumb isn’t ?

Fwiw is just another source .

I knew you hadn't read any


by wreckem713 P

I knew you hadn't read any

I didn’t read how a surgery is done and didn’t go to medical school .
And yet I believe the surgeon made a good job .
Like I said , I’m dumb enough to trust expert over my uneducated knowledge.
Especially when the confidence ratio is 99 to 1 .

Doesn’t mean I didn’t do the experiment personally, the results aren’t true but I read a lot fortunately about it tho .

Ps: anyone with any kind of functional memory easily see how dramatically the weather changed in the last 40 years just by looking outside .
But like Lucian said , probably nature lean on the left side of the political spectrum .


Again wreckem.
Being contrarian is what scientist wish to discover and enter in the historical book and win the Nobel price .

And yet over 99% of them can’t prove what you wish was true ….

The reward is so high to be a contrarian on climate changes , I’m surprise you and others aren’t trying to go into that field and win easily millions if you end up being right .


Mental illness on full display. Right wing pundits promote poisoning our air, water, and soil. And then continue to actively poison the minds of the consumers of their content.

For what? $$$


by Montrealcorp P

Again wreckem.
Being contrarian is what scientist wish to discover and enter in the historical book and win the Nobel price .

And yet over 99% of them can’t prove what you wish was true ….

The reward is so high to be a contrarian on climate changes , I’m surprise you and others aren’t trying to go into that field and win easily millions if you end up being right .

I'm too focused on winning the Main


by wreckem713 P

I'm too focused on winning the Main

I actually think your alternative is better .
your focus on the main event is +EV compare to try to disprove climate change winning the Nobel price .


Red at 30C yesterday. .Confirmed hot.



by Montrealcorp P

I actually think your alternative is better .
your focus on the main event is +EV compare to try to disprove climate change winning the Nobel price .

Thank you


by King Spew P

Uhhhhhh.

Please fill in the data for men that wear mustaches and dying in the cold. Might as well add women too.

Death *DUE TO* heat/cold exposure would be even MORE sensational.

pls elaborate on this given that a lot more people doe in winter than in the summer, I don't understand your tweet


Montreal the 97-99% agreement is on "human behavior is the main cause of the warming that happened in the last 100-150 years".

pls stop saying the same consensus exists about every other claim, including the absolutely controversial (among experts) claims about a purported increase in the intensity and frequency of bad weather events, which is only confirmed for heat waves (with a confirmed reduction of cold waves as well ofc)


This whole "a lot more people die in winter than summer" line is stupid and irrelevant to climate change.


People in cold climates generally have heating systems to cope with drops in temperature, but many people who will experience a +10C rise in highs don't have AC or any way of escaping the intense heat.


by Luciom P

Montreal the 97-99% agreement is on "human behavior is the main cause of the warming that happened in the last 100-150 years".

pls stop saying the same consensus exists about every other claim, including the absolutely controversial (among experts) claims about a purported increase in the intensity and frequency of bad weather events, which is only confirmed for heat waves (with a confirmed reduction of cold waves as well ofc)

absolutely not....

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/24/clima...

Extreme Wildfires Have Doubled in 2 Decades, Study Finds

In a changing climate, extreme wildfire events are becoming far more common and more intense, according to a new analysis.

The hottest year on record, 2023, was also the most extreme for wildfires, according to new research.

Both the frequency and intensity of extreme wildfires have more than doubled in the last two decades, the study found. And when the ecological, social and economic consequences of wildfires were accounted for, six of the last seven years were the most “energetically intense.”

“That we’ve detected such a big increase over such a short period of time makes the findings even more shocking,” said Calum Cunningham, a postdoctoral researcher in pyrogeography at the University of Tasmania and lead author of the study published Monday in the journal Nature Ecology & Evolution. “We’re seeing the manifestations of a warming and drying climate before our very eyes in these extreme fires.”

Larger and more severe wildfires are one of the most obvious manifestations of a planet that is heating up,” Dr. Marlon said in an email. “If we can help people better understand that connection, we may be able to build support for working more quickly to reduce the root causes of the problem — burning fossil fuels.”

again you seem to think its about how hot or cold it is.
no...its about the intensity of bad $h!t happening to be more frequent which bring massive cost.


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