2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
The very last line of the 12th Amendment reads: But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
Is he constitutionally ineligible to the office of the President? Seems he's just be ineligible to be elected President.
When Biden drops out does Trump debate the replacement in September? I'm guessing not.
RFK Jr. at a Chicago Dem convention?? No way.
Hindsight being 20/20, this is why you have a plan for a guy who 100% should never be expected to fulfill 2 terms. **** should have been in motion last year, and thought out since before VP pick. But nope, Dems in shambles yet again.
Two completely incompetent parties, nice job fellas. Wrap it up!
It's not really hindsight though. They could have known this by subtracting Biden's birth year from 2024.
They're both old, geriatric men with no business running for the office of leader of the free world, but ok.
This is really an odd situation. Neither presidential candidate can form a coherent sentence. RNC has capitulated to MAGA and I guess DNC thinks there's no choice, but will that result in 2016 again? Seems unlikely because there's no one who they've "wronged" like Bernie. I can see why low information voters could be tricked to think MAGA is the way.
Man, reading the comments here it's really looking like Biden is a total own goal situation for the dems, and a completely avoidable one at that. Why is he even on the pitch? Wasn't his job to win 2020 then step aside?
Man, reading the comments here it's really looking like Biden is a total own goal situation for the dems, and a completely avoidable one at that. Why is he even on the pitch? Wasn't his job to win 2020 then step aside?
He isn't, they just don't want to admit the rest of the field was SO weak they had to pick Biden as the best option
Completely predictable trainwreck for Biden. I don't know why everyone is so surprised. Highlight for me was when Trump called him Brandon at one point.
Kudos to Dana and Jake they did a great job .
I was surprised the question about who won the 2020 election was not asked
That was brutal for Biden and he prepared for 7 days .
Wow all the comments
So now your voting for Trump or Harris
No one’s asking for a drug test anymore 😀
Kudos to Dana and Jake they did a great job .
I was surprised the question about who won the 2020 election was not asked
That was brutal for Biden and he prepared for 7 days .
Wow all the comments
So now your voting for Trump or Harris
No one’s asking for a drug test anymore 😀
Just in case you were wondering, this thread is exactly why there is no "Biden cult" as you call it. Note how the left leaning posters here are the first to criticise Biden when criticism is warranted. When was the last time you saw the MAGA chuds here say a bad word about Trump? They either defend him or deflect with whataboutism and "TDS", even when he says and does completely ridiculous and moronic things. This is one of the reasons that MAGA is a Trump cult.
Just in case you were wondering, this thread is exactly why there is no "Biden cult" as you call it. Note how the left leaning posters here are the first to criticise Biden when criticism is warranted. When was the last time you saw the MAGA chuds here say a bad word about Trump? They either defend him or deflect with whataboutism and "TDS", even when he does and says completely ridiculous and moronic things. This is one of the reasons that
MAGA ppl on twitter routinely criticize trump when they disagree with him. Did you already forget Trump bragging about the vaccine "he developed", or Trump being in favor of strong military help to Israel while many MAGA are full-anti-interventionism, or just literally today when Trump went in favour of abortion pills?
The only (very relevant) difference is that even when someone disagrees strongly from the alt-right with Trump about something, he remains unapologetically loyal for electoral purposes, because they realize intimately winning is all that matters.
MAGA ppl on twitter routinely criticize trump when they disagree with him. Did you already forget Trump bragging about the vaccine "he developed", or Trump being in favor of strong military help to Israel while many MAGA are full-anti-interventionism, or just literally today when Trump went in favour of abortion pills?
The only (very relevant) difference is that even when someone disagrees strongly from the alt-right with Trump about somethi
Fair enough. I haven't seen much of that here, and I'm not on Twitter. Do they criticise his pathological lying and demented rambling? If so, that would be a new development as they didn't seem to do much of that when he was president.
Fair enough. I haven't seen much of that here, and I'm not on Twitter. Do they criticise his pathological lying and demented rambling? If so, that would be a new development as they didn't seem to do much of that when he was president.
There were decent numbers of De Santis MAGA people who criticized him on character and behaviour during primaries.
But after those end, you behave like a good soldier, we aren't talking about the left which is permanent disarray, there is an imperative moral duty to win above all other considerations at all times after you choose the leader, whomever he or she is, for the right in general.
That's true in general for other rightwing candidates in other countries as well. The right tends to be compact , because ideological purity games are far far rarer among the right than among the left.
rightwing people usually realize everyone sucks, they just have to pick the less-sucky one, and that's still better than the enemy winning.
What unites MAGA is the left not Trump. Trump responds to MAGA existence FOLLOWING it .
What unites the right in many european countries is the left working hard to destroy what they like of their countries (with unchecked low quality immigration, insane green policies that want to undermine even what we eat and so on). Where the left stops (like in Denmark) the right is in disarray and the left wins.
just watched it
biden was not quite as bad as i expected but that might be because the headlines were so catastrophic
the part where the two old folks started slagging each others golf game was great banter
Any major party nominee should be able to clear a few bare minimums. The candidate should recognize a distinction between the national interest and his personal interest. The candidate should have the maturity and temperament to be president. The candidate should not be fundamentally dishonest. And the candidate should be healthy enough, both physically and mentally, to handle an acute crisis.
In a sane world, for each party, nominating a candidate that clears all four hurdles should take precedence over winning an election.
Trump fails the first three hurdles. He always has, and he always will. He was a terrible president. And he has always been a terrible person.
Sadly, I think Biden is now failing the fourth hurdle. I am skeptical about whether the person I saw on stage last night is capable of handling an acute crisis. I wouldn't have said that two years ago. I probably wouldn't have said that six months ago. Biden looked much, much better in the State of the Union address than he did last night. But it was hard to watch him last night and believe that he was not in the midst of a serious decline.
For that reason, I would be in favor of Biden stepping down, even if replacing him slightly improved Trump's chances of winning the election. (FWIW, I'm not certain that Biden represents the Democrats best hope of winning the 2024 election, although he might be.)
Joe Biden has to come to this decision on his own. I don't think that a true insurrection led by someone like Newsom will work. The question is whether there is anyone close to Biden who has both the will and the ability to persuade him, and persuade him very soon. I worry that the answer is no. I worry that the people around him will decide to wait a few weeks in the justified hope that the immediate reaction to the debate will fade and the spin machine will reluctantly reengage to support him. If nothing happens quickly, then by far the most likely scenario will be that Biden limps into the general election.
All this said, I of course will vote for Biden if he is the nominee. Even a wax sculpture of Biden would be a better, and less damaging, POTUS than Trump.
Man, reading the comments here it's really looking like Biden is a total own goal situation for the dems, and a completely avoidable one at that. Why is he even on the pitch? Wasn't his job to win 2020 then step aside?
Even if that was the plan, who do we even have to run in the Democratic party these days? I really don't think that Newsome is as palatable to voters as some people think he is.
Good boy joe!!
