Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.

This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.

Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.

Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.

So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.

Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.

So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.

We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.

Thanks.

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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by jalfrezi P

I did, and so did you if you're being honest. 😉

Like a hole in the ****ing head.


by chillrob P

I think his other comment is much worse, saying that racism is not bad or something to that effect.

Yes, the combination of saying that antisemitism isn't dangerous, that poor immigrants are replacing and ruining society, and that racism isn't bad was not good. You can certainly assign different values to each, but I think most of us would add it up to much the same. I was close to banning him myself for this but CrossNerd got to it first.


i don't lurk in I/P anymore because it's almost as bad as the jordan/lebron thread

but i've never seen any outright racist/fascist stuff written by luciom, only vague allegations of it without any links to where he said such things

i think since he posts about social issues that often align with the right, he gets lumped in as a fascist/racist simply because that is the standard trope

ie there's plenty of people who genuinely think and believe trump is a fascist - despite that he's not even close to being one - i imagine the same is happening with luc


this is not a defense of luc nor trump - but i don't think either are a fascist despite that many in the forum will argue they both are


No rick, you haven't read much of him then.


by rickroll P

i don't lurk in I/P anymore .....

but i've never seen any outright racist/fascist stuff written by luciom,

by jalfrezi P

No rick, you haven't read much of him then.


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by rickroll P

this is not a defense of luc nor trump - but i don't think either are a fascist despite that many in the forum will argue they both are

Fascism brings to mind cartoon villains for most people. In fact, there were ideological underpinnings to fascism that varied by country and among different fascist groups. And there was a fair degree of intellectual support for fascism in certain countries (and intellectual opposition, of course).

Trump is authoritarian, but I wouldn't call Trump a fascist because I don't think there are any ideological underpinnings to his politics.

I don't think it is important to debate whether Luciom is correctly defined as a fascist or not, but I will say this. If, in the near future, a dangerous right wing ideology (whether it goes by the name of fascism or something else) becomes the prevailing ideology in significant parts of the Western world, I think it is likely to resemble Luciom's beliefs.


by Rococo P

Fascism brings to mind cartoon villains for most people. In fact, there were ideological underpinnings to fascism that varied by country and among different fascist groups. And there was a fair degree of intellectual support for fascism in certain countries (and intellecopposition, of course).

Trump is authoritarian, but I wouldn't call Trump a fascist because I don't think there are any ideological underpinnings to his politics.

I don't

Great post.

Also, lol me, looked up "intellecopposition" thinking it might be a real word. I guess it was just typo/autocorrect for "intellectual opposition".


by d2_e4 P

Great post.

Also, lol me, looked up "intellecopposition" thinking it might be a real word. I guess it was just typo/autocorrect for "intellectual opposition".

LOL. I just corrected the typo.


by Rococo P

Fascism brings to mind cartoon villains for most people. In fact, there were ideological underpinnings to fascism that varied by country and among different fascist groups. And there was a fair degree of intellectual support for fascism in certain countries (and intellectual opposition, of course).

Trump is authoritarian, but I wouldn't call Trump a fascist because I don't think there are any ideological underpinnings to his politics.

I d


You'd call the current prevailing right wing ideology fairly benign?


by Luckbox Inc P

You'd call the current prevailing right wing ideology fairly benign?

I wouldn't call it benign, but the current right wing spasm doesn't really feel much of an ideology, at least in USA#1.


by Rococo P

I wouldn't call it benign, but the current right wing spasm doesn't really feel much of an ideology, at least in USA#1.

Maybe you miss the part where luciom was advocating killing people to prevent them reaching a majority and be able to change some laws through a democratic majority ….
His constant view of anything not far right being evil far left .

I’m amaze people don’t see luciom as a fascist .
No idea what would it take more .


I’m guessing people want to assume the best in people and assume they can’t possibly be as bad as they come off rather than the Occam’s razor approach about believing what people tell you they are


Maya Angelou, but yeah it's been really obvious for a long time.


by jalfrezi P

Maya Angelou, but yeah it's been really obvious for a long time.

Huh?


by Montrealcorp P

Maybe you miss the part where luciom was advocating killing people to prevent them reaching a majority and be able to change some laws through a democratic majority ….
His constant view of anything not far right being evil far left .

I’m amaze people don’t see luciom as a fascist .
No idea what would it take more .

You missed the entire point of my post.


by chillrob P

Huh?

She was an American poet of some reknown.


by Rococo P

You missed the entire point of my post.

more important to have a good catch phrase than to understand what you are labeling with it


by Trolly McTrollson P

She was an American poet of some reknown.

Yeah, I know who she is but my what he was trying to say it what she has to do with this discussion.

Do you ever actually try to be helpful instead of snarky? Ever even considered it?


by Rococo P

You missed the entire point of my post.

I’m actually happy you say so .


by chillrob P

Huh?

“When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time”


In 30 days we can get a Lucioum unchained containment thread? That would be pretty wild.


by 5 south P

In 30 days we can get a Lucioum unchained containment thread? That would be pretty wild.

I think this is a great solution that would allow him a thread to complete his agenda but keep the other threads "fascist" free.

PlayBig should suffer a similar fate.


by jjjou812 P

I think this is a great solution that would allow him a thread to complete his agenda but keep the other threads "fascist" free.

PlayBig should suffer a similar fate.

PB does not engage with his audience. A bit of a wet fart.


by 5 south P

A bit of a wet fart.

An apt description of both of them.


by jjjou812 P

I think this is a great solution that would allow him a thread to complete his agenda but keep the other threads "fascist" free.

PlayBig should suffer a similar fate.

Could we maybe let those guys roam free but lock you up instead?


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