The "LOLCANADA" thread...again
So what's new?
I've noticed the Liberals are now ahead in all major polls and Trudeau hasn't even started to campaign yet...i'd be shocked if they lost the election now.
Just shows just how incompetent Conservatives are.
Biden is still somewhat competent. He's declining and evil but still a capable politician. Trudeau is just an incompetent narcissist destroying the country.
I said Biden as the replacement has a better shot than The liberals. Biden is far from competent and the debate proved . Justin is a great speaker and talented liar
I said Biden as the replacement has a better shot than The liberals. Biden is far from competent and the debate proved . Justin is a great speaker and talented liar
Actually Biden awareness is still there knowing he got to leave …
For the party and country …
Justin doesn’t .
Who’s more competent now ?
I said Biden as the replacement has a better shot than The liberals. Biden is far from competent and the debate proved . Justin is a great speaker and talented liar
Biden has survived 5 decades in politics, that doesn't happen without being competent. Trudeau wouldn't have accomplished anything in politics without his last name.
It's funny the kind of tired talking points some of you cling to. Like ok in 2013 you can be frothing mad that he won the leadership contest when he probably wouldn't have were it not for his name. But he then won three consecutive elections and was in power for a decade. Nobody in 2021 is voting for or against him because of his "last name", get over it!
It's funny the kind of tired talking points some of you cling to. Like ok in 2013 you can be frothing mad that he won the leadership contest when he probably wouldn't have were it not for his name. But he then won three consecutive elections and was in power for a decade. Nobody in 2021 is voting for or against him because of his "last name", get over it!
Not often I agree with Uke but I still remember him as a dark horse as party leader and than in the election. Trudeau has a talent and that is public speaking and promising the world but delivering on nothing . He promised to be different and promised transparency, election reform , clean drinking water in 4 years . Sadly he was a true politician and lied about pretty much everything .
Lets be clear Jagmitt has accomplished the most as Trudeau as PM
Now Trudeau has lived the elitist life based on his father's name
It's funny the kind of tired talking points some of you cling to. Like ok in 2013 you can be frothing mad that he won the leadership contest when he probably wouldn't have were it not for his name. But he then won three consecutive elections and was in power for a decade. Nobody in 2021 is voting for or against him because of his "last name", get over it!
It's not a talking point when it's a reality. Any Liberal would have won because the Conservatives ran duds in those Elections. Now after a decade it's possible the Liberals might not even have official party status after next election because he is so incompetent.
Soon 10 years of Trudeau will reinforce my already belief that no matter how bad we think Canadian Conservatives are or could be, we are almost always better off under their rule.
10 years with plenty of Trudeau majority rule and all we have to show for it is bigger government and now more taxes.
With Trudeau hanging on at the end of the rope, I really wonder what new policies they will come up with to try and salvage their sinking Titanic. Probably more taxes, since that's how their brain functions.
Soon 10 years of Trudeau will reinforce my already belief that no matter how bad we think Canadian Conservatives are or could be, we are almost always better off under their rule.
10 years with plenty of Trudeau majority rule and all we have to show for it is bigger government and now more taxes.
With Trudeau hanging on at the end of the rope, I really wonder what new policies they will come up with to try and salvage their sinking Titanic.
Back in 2015 - when Trudeau CUT personal income taxes taking Harper’s 22% tax bracket down to 20.5% - I said he would get zero credit from conservatives who would just pretend he was raising taxes as opposed to cutting them. When Trudeau MAINTAINED the Harper era massive cuts to corporate taxes (a big reason for deficits today and little economic growth to show for them) I said he would get zero credit from conservatives. When the carbon tax and rebate was designed to be REVENUE NEUTRAL I said he would get zero credit from conservatives for this.
At least I was right.
It's not a talking point when it's a reality. Any Liberal would have won because the Conservatives ran duds in those Elections. Now after a decade it's possible the Liberals might not even have official party status after next election because he is so incompetent.
Lol. So when he wins and wins and wins no credit but when he finally loses (after global pandemic and global inflation and global housing crises are dropping approval ratings for incumbents across the g7) only then is it all about his incompetence. Classic.
Lets be clear Jagmitt has accomplished the most as Trudeau as PM
Now Trudeau has lived the elitist life based on his father's name
lol. It’s funny when people don’t realize a Trudeau played the NDP. Liberals always wanted dental care. They spoke about it for years. It is the right policy too - you should support it. When Trudeau locked in the confidence and supply agreement, effectively gaining a majority government, he did so by trading almost nothing but one of the policies he wanted implemented and new would be super popular (and it is, polling is fantastic) anyways. He had maneuvered the NDP to have so little leverage that they gave him the majority keys for nothing.
And then idiot conservatives hate Trudeau so much they pretend that the NDP won!
Guess Justin’s just too busy to care about Alberta and the Calgary Stampede .
lol lozen having the worst take as usual. Can we presume poilievre doesn’t care about LGBT people since he hasn’t attended pride?
LANDSIDE SUPERMAJORITY VICTORY FOR LABOUR. The lost decade under conservative rule in the UK is over.
I said this a few posts back, but incumbents are generally struggling in the current global economy and blaming the current guy in power is happening a lot. It’s easy to try and believe your little pet narratives about how horrible your nemesis is and that is why they lost 10% or whatever in the polls, but global inflation explains probably a lot more than your pet narrative.
How high in priority you believe this should be in a PM actions to the benefit of all Canadians ?
Aren’t u complaining how travelling by planes for useless reasons is bad for the environment?
So I wonder how the stampede is in national priorities for you .
Lol. So when he wins and wins and wins no credit but when he finally loses (after global pandemic and global inflation and global housing crises are dropping approval ratings for incumbents across the g7) only then is it all about his incompetence. Classic.
Often times it takes people a while to admit their mistakes. Also Polivere is a lot better than the last 2 turkeys the Conservative ran.
Lol. So when he wins and wins and wins no credit but when he finally loses (after global pandemic and global inflation and global housing crises are dropping approval ratings for incumbents across the g7) only then is it all about his incompetence. Classic.
He won elections off the backs of corporations doing all the hard work to push the economy forward.
Back in 2015 - when Trudeau CUT personal income taxes taking Harper’s 22% tax bracket down to 20.5% - I said he would get zero credit from conservatives who would just pretend he was raising taxes as opposed to cutting them. When Trudeau MAINTAINED the Harper era massive cuts to corporate taxes (a big reason for deficits today and little economic growth to show for them) I said he would get zero credit from conservatives. When the ca
First of all, we have deficits because Trudeau has grown government spending and wasteful budget increases every single year of his administration (covid money printing adjusted).
His gigantic capital gains tax increase is damaging in ways you won't quite understand for years to come.
Are you right? You voted for this guy last 2 elections and soon a 3rd and there is nothing to show for it except more capital gains taxes.
In 2014 I told my GF (now wife) that a life time politician being voted in due to his last name and last name only + drama teacher experience with lefty leanings will do absolutely nothing for the country.
I was right.
Actually to be more fair to Trudeau, he did drop the GST on rental construction and that saved me a pretty penny.
I'll upgrade his score from D to a C+.
If he had did nothing to touch the capital gains tax, and kept government budget under control / deficits I would have probably given him a B grade which is quite good. But he caved to his base and did not want to do any kind of budget cuts.
Often times it takes people a while to admit their mistakes. Also Polivere is a lot better than the last 2 turkeys the Conservative ran.
O’Toole was twice the man poilievre will ever be. I remember him pleading to his base at the convention to accept a motion that simply acknowledge climate changed existed (not to do anything about it). They refused, and denialism is the de facto policy of the Conservative Party ever since.
First of all, we have deficits because Trudeau has grown government spending and wasteful budget increases every single year of his administration (covid money printing adjusted).
His gigantic capital gains tax increase is damaging in ways you won't quite understand for years to come. Regardless you have to be pretty damned rich for this to be something a normal person is paying. lower income taxes for everyone in exchange for an increase on
Well Canada has BY FAR the lowest deficit as percent of gdp in the g7 and the second lowest debt. I get the conservatives like to make up their own narratives (like your completely ignoring that income taxes went DOWN not up under Trudeau) but try to keep it at least a little bit grounded.
Capital gains is a pretty great policy just in terms of tax fairness and having the same basic tax regardless of the source, the move is well liked by many economists.
And maybe give up the 2014 bit about drama teacher a ****ing decade into his tenure.
Well Canada has BY FAR the lowest deficit as percent of gdp in the g7 and the second lowest debt. I get the conservatives like to make up their own narratives (like your completely ignoring that income taxes went DOWN not up under Trudeau) but try to keep it at least a little bit grounded.
You are dead wrong on this.
Once you understand capital investment / deployment and how countries benefit from it, you will work as hard as possible to lower the tax on it. You don't get more capital deployment and production by taxing it more. Now if your goal is less general well being and GDP stagnation, then it is a win for you.
Trudeau just recently axed the GST on new rental construction because he wanted developers to build more rental housing. I noticed you did not object to this tax decrease. Its logical to you that decreasing taxes on rental construction = more rental construction.
It should also be logical and obvious to you that less taxes on capital gains = more capital deployment and investment in Canada.
"Many economists" doesn't mean anything since anyone can bring up "many economists say" to bolster any weak argument.
You - unsurprisingly - missed the point. It's basic tax equivalency between different forms of income. That is, the tax burden from something like dividends vs capital gains should all be equivalent so you can't game the system by asymmetrically structuring around one of them having a lower tax burden. Utter WOOSH on that point in your response. Now what some economists have suggested is to do this move of making them equivalent AND lower the overall rates, perhaps that gets closer to your "logical and obvious" attempt. The point about economists here is that support was pretty widespread across traditional political spectrums - heck that this idea is well lauded by economists is one of the reasons trudeau presumably took this particular tool to generate revenue.
But it was good to see you stop droning on about deficits after you learned that canada has by far the lowest in the g7 and you've seemed to have given up on the talking point about income taxes now that you learned trudeau lowered them.
You are dead wrong on this.
Once you understand capital investment / deployment and how countries benefit from it, you will work as hard as possible to lower the tax on it. You don't get more capital deployment and production by taxing it more. Now if your goal is less general well being and GDP stagnation, then it is a win for you.
Trudeau just recently axed the GST on new rental construction because he wanted developers to build more renta
There is no capital Control in Canada .
People can invest that capital wherever and in whatever they want with these capital gain tax cut .
Lower the overall rates, interesting, I don't see Trudeau suggesting that at all for the future. Maybe you missed the memo somewhere.
Is this move supposed to spurn more capital investment in Canada domestically and by foreign sources? Avoided the question completely but I will assume it's a big fat no from you.
Economist support widespread. Ok let's see, quick google search.
Bunch of negatives
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/we-asked... - This guy calls it a nothing burger.
https://archive.ph/4rk8j - These guys oppose it - WiDeSpReAd SuPpoRt
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/... - These guys oppose it.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/c... - "Canada's capital gains tax rise will further knock productivity, say economists" -
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/trudeau-s-ex... - Trudeau's ex finance minister rejected it.
The economists that say its positive:
https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal...
“This government is taking action because they need money badly, given the deficit situation. We should understand that,” Smart said.
LMFAO
And lo and behold it's a lefty economist talking about inequality and nothing about actual capital investment.
“We have had a system in Canada that favours capital gains, favours people holding onto assets to get gains, instead of getting dividends or selling assets to invest in a different stock or a different business venture and so on,” Smart said.
Amazing since this increase in capital gains is actually making me not sell one of my assets because I don't want to pay an extra $50K in taxes in order to do so.
I just slammed the door shut on the "WiDeSpReAd SuPpoRt" narrative.
People that never engage in any kind of meaningful capital investment activity should probably never comment on these issues. Good thing we have an ex drama teacher and his hand picked Finance Minister aka Masters in Slavonic studies to make economic decisions for us.
