Ukraine-Russia War Take 2
Here is what the preliminary take on the Ukraine thread disappearing is:
The site was hit with a massive spam attack where hundreds of spam threads were created. In the case where, for example, I see a single spam thread and delete it, that is called a soft delete, and mods can still see them but forum members cannot. Those deletion can be undone.
When a massive attack hits with hundreds of threads, an admin uses a different procedure where the hundreds of spam threads are merged and then hard deleted, where the threads are gone, and no note is left behind. As I have mentioned with my own experience of just soft deleting a large number of posts, sometimes a post or thread gets checked or merged accidentally and is deleted by mistake. Dealing with hundreds of spam threads takes a sledgehammer, not a scalpel.
It appears that our Ukraine thread may have gotten caught up in that recent net of spam threads. If so, it is likely gone for good. I cant say this for sure, and am awaiting comments from admins on this issue. Yes, this sucks. And hopefully there was some other software glitch that caused the disappearance, and we may recover it in the future.
But in the meantime, I have created this new Ukraine-Russia War thread to enable the conversation to continue. Obviously continuity with earlier discussions will be lost. There is no way around that. So as best as possible, let's pick up the conversation with recent events and go from there.
If you have any questions about this, please post them in the mod thread, not here. Let's keep this thread going with posts about the war, not the disappearance of the old thread.
Thanks.
genocide of Palestinian citizens = bad
genocide of Ukrainian citizens = good
this pretty much sums up the arguments from most of the idiots ITT (Bluegrassplayer, btw, is an exception to this category)
BTW idiots, there is another possibility:
Spoiler
BOTH are bad. And the USA actively participating in one is disgusting...anyone with any intelligence should be able to figure out who I am talking about...but that seems like too much to ask from the majority of this thread
This is falze.
You're not doing the work because you can't. You're wrong. If you are referencing the referendums done after Russia took over and was coercing the population... well yeah, those aren't legally binding or fair.
Keep ignoring facts as long as you want.
After all, the USA are the sole reason for that war.
Rest assured, ROW that isnt brainwashed knows this.
End my participation ITT.
Nothing to win vs your CNN point of view.
NYT running Putin propaganda again
Keep ignoring facts as long as you want.
After all, the USA are the sole reason for that war.
Rest assured, ROW that isnt brainwashed knows this.
End my participation ITT.
Nothing to win vs your CNN point of view.
The Russians killed MILLIONS of Ukrainians in the 1900s. Ukraine doesn’t want that to happen again, and the US doesn’t want that to happen either.
Have you ever heard the term “the enemy of my enemy is my friend?”
Until Ukraine gets its nukes back from Russia, Ukraine is defending itself. Russia has broken multiple agreements with Ukraine and has invaded twice in the last decade.
To think the US caused this is incorrect. The people who ordered the invasion are the ones who are responsible
Just in case anyone's forgotten...
its funny when a famine happens to our enemies then its "man-made" but no one says the Irish famine or the various famines in India or Bengal or wherever were the fault or caused by the British.
You have a strong moral compass
You know which one I also just learned about ; Americans killing all the buffalo so the native people didn’t have any food.
insane article. if this stuff is making the NYT then you know its just so much worse.
https://archive.ph/2024.07.06-040814/htt...
ok ok a bunch of instances of murdering Russians surrendering. whatever I guess. Russia worse. war is hell amirite.
nice touch with the fascist war criminal idolatry tho. very on point.
wait huh? an American serviceman is running a combat group in Ukraine?
oh right. nothing to see here.
Trust me it’s easy for ex army guys to become freedom fighters in conflict zones.
It’s not a govt conspiracy. The govt would prefer that we didn’t
the extent of this was massively downplayed for like a year but once again, it turns out that the Western press is admitting things are much worse. its really chilling.
Kyiv. Okhmatdyt clinic.There are no words. One hatred for every russian.
Kyiv. Okhmatdyt clinic.There are no words. One hatred for every russian.
Arrival at the Okhmatdyt clinic
https://youtube.com/shorts/LIVRRNAiliY?s...
damn did Russia just take a page out of the Western playbook and bomb a hospital on purpose? maybe they were inspired by Israel.
US Secretary of State Blinken tells the NATO conference that Ukraine will have ex-Danish and Dutch F-16s operational later this summer. With Belgian and Norwegian F-16s also incoming, Ukraine should end up with about 85, enough for four fighter squadrons, a training squadron (already operating in Romania) and a few attrition replacements. The aircraft will have the AIM-120 AMRAAM missile, with a range out to 100 miles, and the Ukrainians particularly want to shoot down the Russian Sukhois that are currently delivering KAB glide bombs without interference.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/10...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/20...
There's an issue over ground radar (and staff) to direct the fighters, and Ukraine doesn't have an AWACS capability. But NATO does have AWACS in the area, and the Russian AWACS are now a bit shy. The Russians only had nine of them, Beriev A-50s which are long out of production and cannot be replaced, and the Ukrainians have shot down three of those.
So like I said, we will give them f16s to use once we control the skies. And it will be 100-200 not 5
Russia just signed an arrest warrant for Navalny's widow. Right after bombing a children's hospital. Very classy all around.
One guys seems impressed. Although maybe Modhi is just happy Putin is almost as short as him, so the hug wont look so awkward.
maybe she shouldnt be resisting. and maybe that hospital had Hamas.
comparison is how we understand the world.
