The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

So what's new?

I've noticed the Liberals are now ahead in all major polls and Trudeau hasn't even started to campaign yet...i'd be shocked if they lost the election now.

Just shows just how incompetent Conservatives are.

11 July 2019 at 07:31 PM
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by uke_master P


But it was good to see you stop droning on about deficits after you learned that canada has by far the lowest in the g7 and you've seemed to have given up on the talking point about income taxes now that you learned trudeau lowered them.

Yeah I knew about that fact about 8-9 years ago probably even before you did.


I am also pretty sure you fully believed in your mind the "budget will balance itself" when you voted for the Drama Teacher in 2014.


by Tien P

Sorry to burst your bubble but Trudeau did a capital gain tax increase, not a tax cut.

I know .
I’m Just saying the correlation u make on reducing those capital tax gain will automatically equate higher investment in Canada is BS .
Aka offshore tax heaven is an example .
People with capital gain invest where they can make the most money, period .
Not necessarily in Canada .
So the government has no choice but to create tax for revenues .

Ps:btw I was oppose to that capital increase .
Certainly at the level they put it . Way too low .


by Tien P

Yeah I knew about that fact about 8-9 years ago probably even before you did.


I am also pretty sure you fully believed in your mind the "budget will balance itself" when you voted for the Drama Teacher in 2014.

Meh that’s a false talking point .
https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/ca....
We see from 2015 to 2020 Canada (federal) debt to gdp was stable untill 2020 arrived .
And I know no country that did great in that regard by not having a huge increase in debt from 2020 shrug .

Trudeau could have done better yes .
But blaming him when Canada was stable from 2014/15 to 2020 is laughable .
And even after covid it is still ok .

Trudeau is not a great pm with massive errors in some area .
I just don’t understand why people Aim at those things that trudeau was actually ok relatively lol.


by lozen P

Guess Justin’s just too busy to care about Alberta and the Calgary Stampede .


Misses his first Stampede outside of the 2021 somewhat Covid-restricted one - only been to 6/8 Stampedes - just too busy to care1!!1!!

LOLozen.


by Tien P

Yeah I knew about that fact about 8-9 years ago probably even before you did.


I am also pretty sure you fully believed in your mind the "budget will balance itself" when you voted for the Drama Teacher in 2014.

well at least I remember the full quote and the conservative orthodoxy it espoused. Sadly some types are stuck in a rut of “drama teacher” and “fathers name” and “budget will balance itself” half-quote from a decade ago that they keep repeating the same stupid lines today. Like judge him on that ahit a decade ago if you must. But today judge him on his record of accomplishments (like least deficit to gdp in g7, like his tax cuts, like his pipelines, like is revenue neutral climate policy, and other conservative lauded ideals).


by Bobo Fett P

Misses his first Stampede outside of the 2021 somewhat Covid-restricted one - only been to 6/8 Stampedes - just too busy to care1!!1!!

LOLozen.

In politics they do not remember the ones you went to only the ones you make

We all remember when he skipped the first national reconciliation day to go surfing because he can’t give a crap about indigenous folks as well and that proof is in the policies

Sad we still have over a year before he is gone and another carbon tax increase


by uke_master P

O’Toole was twice the man poilievre will ever be. I remember him pleading to his base at the convention to accept a motion that simply acknowledge climate changed existed (not to do anything about it).

And he lost a very winnable election. Poilievre continues to become more popular.


by uke_master P

well at least I remember the full quote and the conservative orthodoxy it espoused. Sadly some types are stuck in a rut of “drama teacher” and “fathers name” and “budget will balance itself” half-quote from a decade ago that they keep repeating the same stupid lines today. Like judge him on that ahit a decade ago if you must. But today judge him on his record of accomplishments (like least deficit to gdp

Record of accomplishments like "least deficit to GDP in g7" - 15 years ago in 2008/2009 when I looked at Canada's very good deficit to GDP in the g7 during the great financial crisis I should have said to myself "Thanks Trudeau for this amazing accomplishment". More like he inherited an amazing Canadian financial situation.

And Harper also inherited a great financial situation in Canada, good on Harper though to maintain that great financial situation for the next guy.


Can any Trudeau supporter tell me how this increased capital gains tax is supposed to increase domestic and foreign capital investment.


by Montrealcorp P

I know .
I’m Just saying the correlation u make on reducing those capital tax gain will automatically equate higher investment in Canada is BS .
Aka offshore tax heaven is an example .
People with capital gain invest where they can make the most money, period .
Not necessarily in Canada .
So the government has no choice but to create tax for revenues .

Ps:btw I was oppose to that capital increase .
Certainly at the level they put it . Way

I am not surprised you also want more capital gains taxation, but not because of the merits of it or lack there of, but I would surmise capital gains is not something you have much personal experience with.

by Montrealcorp P

Meh that’s a false talking point .
https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/ca....
We see from 2015 to 2020 Canada (federal) debt to gdp was stable untill 2020 arrived .
And I know no country that did great in that regard by not having a huge increase in debt from 2020 shrug .

Trudeau could have done better yes .
But blaming him

I give Trudeau about a C grade.


by Tien P

Can any Trudeau supporter tell me how this increased capital gains tax is supposed to increase domestic and foreign capital investment.

The reality is folks like Uke will never agree to list off Trudeau's accomplishments because they are minimal

Trudeau has accumulated more debt than all the PM's before him combined . That can never be good. I do remember his promise of a balanced budget by 2019 before Covid hit. Now he has no goal to ever balance a budget . Surprised were not hearing Budgets Balance themselves.


by Tien P

Record of accomplishments like "least deficit to GDP in g7" - 15 years ago in 2008/2009 when I looked at Canada's very good deficit to GDP in the g7 during the great financial crisis I should have said to myself "Thanks Trudeau for this amazing accomplishment". More like he inherited an amazing Canadian financial situation.

And Harper also inherited a great financial situation in Canada, good on Harper though to maintain that great financial

Were not you the guy, just a few posts back, screeching hyperbolicly about out of control deficits? And now you’re saying he maintained an “amazing” financial situation? Good on Harper AND Trudeau on that front!


by lozen P

The reality is folks like Uke will never agree to list off Trudeau's accomplishments because they are minimal.

Start here: https://liberal.ca/our-progress/


by uke_master P

Were not you the guy, just a few posts back, screeching hyperbolicly about out of control deficits? And now you’re saying he maintained an “amazing” financial situation? Good on Harper AND Trudeau on that front!

You're better than this.

The only reason Trudeau can run deficit spending with very little to show for it is because of the great financial situation his predecessor left him with.

Harper never ran on deficit spending, Trudeau did. Trudeau got to try his deficit spending experiment, and its largely a failed experiment even adjusted for covid.


by lozen P

In politics they do not remember the ones you went to only the ones you make


Not "they"...you. You are the one who thought this pathetic talking point was worthy of a post here.


by Tien P

You're better than this.

The only reason Trudeau can run deficit spending with very little to show for it is because of the great financial situation his predecessor left him with.

Harper never ran on deficit spending, Trudeau did. Trudeau got to try his deficit spending experiment, and its largely a failed experiment even adjusted for covid.

At least I'm better than that. Let's use actual facts as opposed to your little fictions.


The Liberals were the ones that left Harper with a fantastic fiscal position. Harper then had year after year of deficits (regardless of what he "ran" on). Trudeau had pretty minor deficits through to the pandemic which of course is a whole other ballgame, and for today? Well we are still left about where we began: compared to global peers Canada has a very well constrained fiscal position. In fact it is - by far - the best in the g7.


by lozen P

In politics they do not remember the ones you went to only the ones you make

We all remember when he skipped the first national reconciliation day to go surfing because he can’t give a crap about indigenous folks as well and that proof is in the policies

Sad we still have over a year before he is gone and another carbon tax increase

Do you think Poilievre skipping pride events means he doesn't care about LGBT people?


by uke_master P

Do you think Poilievre skipping pride events means he doesn't care about LGBT people?

They are not the same. There is only one Calgary Stampede and tons of Gay Pride Parades. I do not see Trudeau marching in Free Palestine parades and nor should he .

I dispise the man but always thought good on you showing up at the Stampede were most folks do not like you.


by Bobo Fett P

Not "they"...you. You are the one who thought this pathetic talking point was worthy of a post here.

Hey feel free to ignore it if you do not like it . I get you do not like my politics


by lozen P

There is only one Calgary Stampede and tons of Gay Pride Parades.

Tonnes of pride parades and the guy can't go to a single one of them??? Like not even the Ottawa one?

If your conclusion is that not going to an event he has regularly attended means he doesn't care about Alberta, surely not going to any pride parade means poilievre doesn't care about LGBT people, right? right? right?

Unless, of course, you are a hypocrite.

by lozen P

I dispise the man but always thought good on you showing up at the Stampede were most folks do not like you.

Is this some pathetic attempt at an insult? I don't live in calgary. I'd probably go if I did. Like are you going this year?


by lozen P

They are not the same. There is only one Calgary Stampede and tons of Gay Pride Parades.


Right, and with tons of Pride events at tons of locations, it should be easy to show up at a few, right? Especially when LGBTQ+ people are under attack in ways they haven't been for decades.

by lozen P

Hey feel free to ignore it if you do not like it . I get you do not like my politics


It's not your politics I'm taking issue with, it's your parroting of pathetic talking points. So many legitimate reasons to criticize Trudeau, and you repeatedly choose some of the silliest ones.


by uke_master P

At least I'm better than that. Let's use actual facts as opposed to your little fictions.


The Liberals were the ones that left Harper with a fantastic fiscal position. Harper then had year after year of deficits (regardless of what he "ran" on). Trudeau had pretty minor deficits through to the pandemic which of course is a whole other ballgame, and for today? Well we are still left about where we began: compared to global peers Canada has a


Is Trudeau also responsible for liberal stewardship of Canada before Harper?

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-fina...

"Canada's total government net debt-to-GDP ratio stood at 40.4 per cent in 2014, as shown in the following chart. This is the lowest level among G-7 countries and is less than half of the G-7 average, which the OECD estimates stood at 86.8 per cent of GDP in that same year."


Giving credit to Trudeau for something that existed before his term as prime minister is pure copium.


Note, you said that is a Trudeau "record of accomplishment".


by Bobo Fett P

Right, and with tons of Pride events at tons of locations, it should be easy to show up at a few, right? Especially when LGBTQ+ people are under attack in ways they haven't been for decades.


It's not your politics I'm taking issue with, it's your parroting of pathetic talking points. So many legitimate reasons to criticize Trudeau, and you repeatedly choose some of the silliest ones.

Oh please cut the BS that LGBTQ2+ people are under attack . That group of society has all the benefits of everyone else in society and laws to protect them Canada may be one of the best countries to live in if your LGBTQ2+


Do you struggle to follow basic conversations? You said the hilariously inept "Harper never ran on deficit spending" when the reality is he ran up consecutive deficits in contrast to the prior decade of liberal surpluses. I wasn't giving credit to Trudeau for 2000s era Liberals - obviously - OBVIOUSLY - but putting things in their proper context. I already agreed Canada had been on an excellent fiscal position for decades now compared to peer countries and the point I'm making is Trudeau has MAINTAINED that excellent #1 in g7 position, in contrast to the narratives of deficit doom and gloom (with the pandemic an obvious exemption in every country).


by lozen P

Oh please cut the BS that LGBTQ2+ people are under attack . That group of society has all the benefits of everyone else in society and laws to protect them Canada may be one of the best countries to live in if your LGBTQ2+

The presumptive future prime minister won't even attend a pride parade! By your logic, if the PM doesn't even care about you - your words not mine when applied to Trudeau - that doesn't sound very good.

It is hilarious how you except Trudeau to endlessly coddle Alberta and put up a huge stink that he might miss one event he has regularly attended over the years, but then dismiss Poilievere giving the cold shoulder to LGBT people like it is a nothingburger. Hypocrisy, know thy name.


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