Israel/Palestine thread
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The Hamas Charter of 2017 defines Palestine as extending 'from the river to the sea' and as an Arab Muslim land, and denies the legitimacy of Zionism. This has obvious implications, though of course it's no worse than pro-Israelis announcing that the Arabs can all be removed from the Holy Land and stuck in the Sinai Desert -- except that the Arabs have far less military capacity for ethnic cleansing.
that says nothing about extermination of forced relocation of Jews.
a bit of good news for the side of the righteous.
reminder that hamas' goal is the extermination and/or forced deportation of all jews in the 'holy land'
cite please
The Hamas Charter of 2017 defines Palestine as extending 'from the river to the sea' and as an Arab Muslim land, and denies the legitimacy of Zionism. This has obvious implications, though of course it's no worse than pro-Israelis announcing that the Arabs can all be removed from the Holy Land and stuck in the Sinai Desert -- except that the Arabs have far less military capacity for ethnic cleansing.
many jewish people feel that zionism is terrible. I dont think they are looking for extermination of all jews in the holy land
agree
agreee
How else would the entire area become Arab Muslim land?
step 1) from the river to the sea, make the rapes and murders of israeli civilians oct 7 look like a rehearsal for the main event
step 2) ??
step 3) peaceful coexistence with the jews under a palestinian flag
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fortunately the wonderfully brave boys and girls of the IDF aren't so naive
glad we agree that it doesnt say that.
defeating one Hasbara lie at a time. thats what I do.
Maybe you should read it:
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century...
Or if that's too much, the wiki summary:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Hamas...
Maybe you should read it:
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century...
Or if that's too much, the wiki summary:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Hamas...
Has their charter changed since then
Maybe you should read it:
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century...
Or if that's too much, the wiki summary:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Hamas...
passage of time and chronology is hard to understand. btw, have you seen the American constitution from the 1800s?
hamas taking some overtly antisemitic language out of their lol documents a couple of years ago to fool people like pw means 0
guys guys. we gotta do a (plausible) genocide and war of extermination bc of some words from 1988. Zionism is a hell of a drug.
words that were amended I might add too
the war is about bringing to justice the people responsible for the rapes and murders of israeli civilians on oct 7, and removing their ability to achieve the proudly stated aim of doing it again but bigger
step 1) from the river to the sea, make the rapes and murders of israeli civilians oct 7 look like a rehearsal for the main event
step 2) ??
step 3) peaceful coexistence with the jews under a palestinian flag
--
fortunately the wonderfully brave boys and girls of the IDF aren't so naive
Yup, uniformed rapists and torturers are really the bravest.
the war is about bringing to justice the people responsible for the rapes and murders of israeli civilians on oct 7, and removing their ability to achieve the proudly stated aim of doing it again but bigger
no the "war" is about "exterminating" the Gazans.
we arent allowed to make comparisons or analogies here so I will just leave it there.
no, the war is about putting an end to hamas, a terrorist organisation which planned and carried out the rapes and murders of around a thousand civilians on oct 7, and whose leadership has proudly stated that they plan to commit acts which quote will make oct 7 look like a rehearsal for the main event
well Israel is losing at that bc Hamas is taking out invaders every day. they have become quite adept at killing civilians and children tho.
how many hamas terrorists have been killed by the brave boys and girls of the IDF since oct 7 iyo?
None, because there aren't any brave boys and girls of the IDF. There are however a bunch of scared conscripts and another bunch of sick rapists, murderers and child killers.
None, because there aren't any brave boys and girls of the IDF. There are however a bunch of scared conscripts and another bunch of sick rapists, murderers and child killers.
You need to have empathy for soldiers who might want to do the right thing but are too scared to do so. Everyone in war is scared. Not everyone is a sick rapist etc etc etc.
