Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
hes back in a month. we all gotta take our lumps. he will be fine.
I mean… as others have already pointed out, it’s “permanent” until he understands why this happened, stops with the maladaptive behaviors, and successfully convinces me to reverse it. Contrition is usually the way to go, but from what I understand that does not seem to be the route he is choosing. It’s sort of up to him, honestly.
This sounds like a perma ban unless he kisses your ass for some weird reason. Seem unnecessary.
This sounds like a perma ban unless he kisses your ass for some weird reason. Seem unnecessary.
Then read it again, friend. He can come back if he can stop breaking the rules. First he needs to demonstrate that he understands both *what the rules are* and *in what ways he is violating them* so that I am convinced he is capable of returning and contributing in a cooperative way.
Circumventing his ban to make more baseless accusations about me to the other mods is not the path toward returning.
How about the forum buys you a le cruset pot , you moderate another forum and we get Mets back?
I am also in the market for bribes to not moderate this forum if anyone is interested.
thinking about hitting myself in the head with a hammer until i'm the kind of person who values what mets posts
We had a fine discussion along these lines in this very thread not too long ago, starting around this post:
i haven't witnessed anything nor do i care or will investigate what he did
however, i implore cn to consider backing off on a month long ban - that's a bit harsh imo, especially for someone with the all time post record which has been mostly goodness
Rafiki, I reached out to you directly this past week to ask how I might improve my moderation on the pro-Israel side, and twice you slapped my hand away.
If you’d like to dispute that, you have my permission to post our PM exchange.
Rather than passive-aggressively “liking” all the posts that complain about me, I again invite you in good faith to engage in an open dialogue with me directly.
At a certain point, I will have to address the untruths with receipts… (Fwiw I am extremely organized.)
We had a fine discussion along these lines in this very thread not too long ago, starting around this post:
That is the kind of decisive action we NEED from our new mod. d2 for site admin!
Rafiki, I reached out to you directly this past week to ask how I might improve my moderation on the pro-Israel side, and twice you slapped my hand away.
If you’d like to dispute that, you have my permission to post our PM exchange.
Rather than passive-aggressively “liking” all the posts that complain about me, I again invite you in good faith to engage in an open dialogue with me directly.
At a certain point, I will have to address the untrut
Which pot would you like?
Rafiki, I reached out to you directly this past week to ask how I might improve my moderation on the pro-Israel side, and twice you slapped my hand away.
If you’d like to dispute that, you have my permission to post our PM exchange.
Rather than passive-aggressively “liking” all the posts that complain about me, I again invite you in good faith to engage in an open dialogue with me directly.
At a certain point, I will have to address the untrut
Right, and then today you posted what?
Quote it so we can understand together where the disconnect occurred.
How am I “chasing away” the Jewish posters? That is what Mets alleged regarding you and him (and Mongidig, which will be the next receipt posted).
you can like posts now on 2+2?
Jenn it may surprise you to know that I can like any post on here I'd like, if I happen to agree with them. That is all that happened here.
As an aside, I think the issue here is you think this is about you. For me, it isn't. And anyone who reads our PMs in the previous post should arrive at the same conclusion. You are 5% of this maybe.
Jenn it may surprise you to know that I can like any post on here I'd like, if I happen to agree with them. That is all that happened here.
As an aside, I think the issue here is you think this is about you. For me, it isn't. And anyone who reads our PMs in the previous post should arrive at the same conclusion. You are 5% of this maybe.
You liked a post that said I was unfit to be a mod and shame on me.
Explain to me how, given my recent interaction with you, that you feel I deserve that. Or that I have chased away the Jews in that thread when I have extensively made myself available to BOTH you and Mets.
If you want to make accusations regarding my integrity, no matter how passive, I will challenge you on them.
I just am curious to know, if reaching out to you directly to ask how I might improve your experience is not the exact best path to getting you what you want, what is?
You liked a post that said I was unfit to be a mod and shame on me.
Explain to me how, given my recent interaction with you, that you feel I deserve that. Or that I have chased away the Jews in that thread when I have extensively made myself available to BOTH you and Mets.
If you want to make accusations regarding my integrity, no matter how passive, I will challenge you on them.
You did not chase away the Jews. Nobody has accused you of this. The antisemitism chased away the Jews. As it tends to do.
I meant what I said, I am grateful for your service, and I hoped less drama would occur in this section going forward.
AND, I think you're unfit to be a mod.
You are in the middle of proving why.
If anyone is acting in bad faith or being abusive, it is you and Mets. I can only extend myself so many times to the two of you while you spin this false narrative.
I’m glad we’ve cleared it up.
For the record, being a mod in here is probably the hardest volunteer job I know of online. So I do mean it, I appreciate that you took a swing,
