Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.

This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.

Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.

Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.

So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.

Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.

So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.

We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.

Thanks.

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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by Victor P

Soviets did about 90% of the beating iirc. the West did a good job bombing civilians as usual.

soviets would have been starving to death and fighting with pitchforks without the USA aiding them


by rickroll P

soviets would have been starving to death and fighting with sickles without the USA aiding them

FYP ldo.


That might be true, but at least they would have been starving to death and fighting with pitchforks/sickles while having a healthy respect for civilian life unlike the west. It's like the line from Prigozhin's film: "Americans say they fight for democracy, but Russians fight FOR JUSTICE"


by Bluegrassplayer P

That might be true, but at least they would have been starving to death and fighting with pitchforks/sickles while having a healthy respect for civilian life unlike the west. It's like the line from Prigozhin's film: "Americans say they fight for democracy, but Russians fight FOR JUSTICE"

nice 😀


by Bluegrassplayer P

Nic Cage, Nic Cage, and Meryl Streep were indeed great, but the movie also had an incredible supporting cast, Brian Cox as McKee was my favorite. (Perfect ending due to Brian Cox's great acting too.)

Charlie Kaufman's films are always interesting, I think this is my second favorite next to Eternal Sunshine.

Dude. Chris Cooper won an Oscar for that movie. Probably my favorite role of his ever. The whole film is brilliant and perfect in every way.


I still quote the “**** fish” line when appropriate


Oh were your 3 leads Nic Cage, Nic Cage and Cooper? That works too, he was incredible.

It's really a great cast and a perfect script. My friend and I used to have an inside joke about "The Three".


by rickroll P

soviets would have been starving to death and fighting with pitchforks without the USA aiding them

Nope. This has been deboonked.


by Bluegrassplayer P

Oh were your 3 leads Nic Cage, Nic Cage and Cooper? That works too, he was incredible.

It's really a great cast and a perfect script. My friend and I used to have an inside joke about "The Three".

:p


Let's just tie the two discussion threads together.

by Victor P

Soviets did about 90% of the beating iirc. the West did a good job bombing civilians as usual.

by Victor P

Nope. This has been deboonked.



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by Victor P

Nope. This has been deboonked.

if it has been, then surely you can provide links to the deboonkery


Here's one source:

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Where's that from?

Also, nobody mentioned Lord Of War yet, that's pretty good. And he plays a Russian.


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by rickroll P

if it has been, then surely you can provide links to the deboonkery



by Bluegrassplayer P

Here's one source:

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by Victor P

finding a single scholar who says it merely sped things up by 2 years is not the deboonkery you believe it is


this is literally no different from arguing the world is flat because you found a lone geologist who agrees that it is


It's worth reading the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease....

The "similar view Glantz is offering" is to this view:


In a confidential interview with the wartime correspondent Konstantin Simonov, the Soviet Marshal Georgy Zhukov is quoted as saying:

Today [1963] some say the Allies didn't really help us ... But listen, one cannot deny that the Americans shipped over to us material without which we could not have equipped our armies held in reserve or been able to continue the war.


lol, victor you truly have no shame

literally skipped the opinions of a soviet historian, nikita himself, and zhukov (the man running the war) who all said they would have lost otherwise and then found the one random american who wasn't alive during the war who thinks it was a nothingburger



by rickroll P

finding a single scholar who says it merely sped things up by 2 years is not the deboonkery you believe it is


this is literally no different from arguing the world is flat because you found a lone geologist who agrees that it is

I am not going to be able to reprogram what you have been led to believe since birth and have never once reconsidered in any way on an internet forum.

I pointed you to one of the foremost scholars who studied the Soviet archives. you can work from there if you want.


by Victor P

I am not going to be able to reprogram what you have been led to believe since birth and have never once reconsidered in any way on an internet forum.

I pointed you to one of the foremost scholars who studied the Soviet archives. you can work from there if you want.

i love how you ignore that the top soviet running the war says they would have lost without lend-lease


by Victor P

I am not going to be able to reprogram what you have been led to believe since birth and have never once reconsidered in any way on an internet forum.

I pointed you to one of the foremost scholars who studied the Soviet archives. you can work from there if you want.

"The Soviet archives" sounds like a totally unimpeachable and unbiased source of factual information, guess that's settled then.


by rickroll P

i love how you ignore that the top soviet running the war says they would have lost without lend-lease

I dont ignore that. I understand context. I also dont think Zhukov did a deep dive bc he was too busy you know, running the military aspect.


by Victor P

I dont ignore that. I understand context. I also dont think Zhukov did a deep dive bc he was too busy you know, running the military aspect.

frame this in the louvre


even if second rate US equipment was the decisive factor (it wasnt ofc but even if it was), the Soviets still did the work of killing the Nazis. this is very hard for the West to accept as we can see.


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