Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.

This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.

Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.

Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.

So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.

Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.

So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.

We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.

Thanks.

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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Can we move this dogshit to the conspiracy thread? And contain Viktor there for good measure.


you could stop responding


by Victor P

you could stop responding

I'm here for the ChatGPT lols and Nic Cage movies, and you keep commie-tarding it up.


by d2_e4 P

Stalin wasn't the only one to "beat the Nazis" as Victor would have us believe, in line with the revisionist history of WWII that used to be taught in schools in the Soviet Union.

Did Vic say only or did you invent that


talk to rickroll and BGP. as usual they cannot accept the fact that someone disagrees with any Western idea and certainly not the propagandized account that the USA beat the Nazis despite the fact that Soviets killed like 75% of them.


by PointlessWords P

Did Vic say only or did you invent that

Clearly you don't know how language works if you think he needed to, but for the avoidance of doubt, he subsequently quantified that he meant 90%.


Today I learned people don’t understand the differences between supplying and fighting


I am all in favor of seeing P&S return to its Hamsterdam roots. Little to no moderation, let the forum members dictate the land.


by d2_e4 P

Clearly you don't know how language works if you think he needed to, but for the avoidance of doubt, he subsequently quantified that he meant 90%.

So Vic didn’t say that when you quoted him as such


by PointlessWords P

Today I learned people don’t understand the differences between supplying and fighting

Bruh, I don't think you are really in a position to be commenting on others' reading comprehension in general, or in this instance specifically.


by d2_e4 P

Can we move this dogshit to the conspiracy thread? And contain Viktor there for good measure.

cosign, this is worse than pizzagate for anyone with the tiniest understanding of military history - genuinely think victor even put in that one dissenting viewpoint in the wiki as well 😀


by PointlessWords P

So Vic didn’t say that when you quoted him as such

Stop being an annoying pedant. Despite what you think, it just makes you look even dumber than usual, if that's even possible.


by Victor P

talk to rickroll and BGP. as usual they cannot accept the fact that someone disagrees with any Western idea

No, the issue is that you don't see the world through any nuanced lens so you can't comprehend people defending the West in any context without idolizing the West in every context.

Anyway, today's my birthday so only happy thoughts after this.


by ganstaman P

No, the issue is that you don't see the world through any nuanced lens so you can't comprehend people defending the West in any context without idolizing the West in every context.

Anyway, today's my birthday so only happy thoughts after this.

Happy Birthday! Can you tell us a story from your younger days to celebrate? I've always wanted to know what it was like on Noah's Ark.


Happy birthday from everyone here.


by Tuma P

I am all in favor of seeing P&S return to its Hamsterdam roots. Little to no moderation, let the forum members dictate the land.

Amen.


It's ironic that it's the Western historian that Victor agrees with while it's all the Soviets who are apparently spreading the Western propaganda.

Obviously the Soviets played a huge role in defeating the Nazis and I don't doubt that the USA's direct role is often overstated in the US. Nitpicking and downplaying the impact Western aid played in helping the Soviets is a still a completely ridiculous hill to die on. Even taking the one scholar who agrees with you at face value it still saved millions if not 10s of millions of lives (i.e. the additional deaths if the war had been extended by 12-18 months).


I stated 2 facts and didnt attack anyone. I was subsequently personally attacked by 3 posters and then you came along to chastise me and attack me.

all 4 of these posters know that I am not allowed to respond at even a fraction of their vitriol and are desperately hoping that I do.


happy birthday gangsta


by Willd P

It's ironic that it's the Western historian that Victor agrees with while it's all the Soviets who are apparently spreading the Western propaganda.

Obviously the Soviets played a huge role in defeating the Nazis and I don't doubt that the USA's direct role is often overstated in the US. Nitpicking and downplaying the impact Western aid played in helping the Soviets is a still a completely ridiculous hill to die on. Even taking the one schola

all of the Soviets? bc I just read about only 3 and the claims are pretty tenuous.


by Victor P

I stated 2 facts and didnt attack anyone. I was subsequently personally attacked by 3 posters and then you came along to chastise me and attack me.

all 4 of these posters know that I am not allowed to respond at even a fraction of their vitriol and are desperately hoping that I do.

And we've reached the Victim phase of the discussion. Too predictable.


by Victor P

I stated 2 facts and didnt attack anyone. I was subsequently personally attacked by 3 posters and then you came along to chastise me and attack me.

all 4 of these posters know that I am not allowed to respond at even a fraction of their vitriol and are desperately hoping that I do.

i apologize if i came off insulting to you, that was not my intention

but i stand by that you're going into cospiratard level with this "zhukov and kruschev who literally fought in the war didn't know anything but this american who wrote about it over half a century later (and disagrees with all of his peers) magically understood it better"

its confirmation bias at its finest and you can do better than that

as wild says, this is obviously subjective and open to interpretation, but even glantz admits it dramatically changed the outcome

i like you personally, i advocate for you a lot, but you it's been years since you've done anything but rinse and repeat whatever nonsense fits the binary world view you've constructed


For the record, I do not apologise and mocking your incessant propaganda was entirely my intention.


by rickroll P

i apologize if i came off insulting to you, that was not my intention

but i stand by that you're going into cospiratard level with this "zhukov and kruschev who literally fought in the war didn't know anything but this american who wrote about it over half a century later (and disagrees with all of his peers) magically understood it better"

its confirmation bias at its finest and you can do better than that

i like you personally, i advocate fo

ok all good then budday.

but its just far from a conspiracy theory. many more than Glantz take that. I showed you one guy who is a preeminent historian and one of the first and few to access Soviet archives after the fall. you want me to find a list of more?


by d2_e4 P

Happy Birthday! Can you tell us a story from your younger days to celebrate? I've always wanted to know what it was like on Noah's Ark.

:( I'm not even 40 just yet.


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