2024 Fantasy Football Thread

Somebody sell me on why Terry McLaurin is a bad pick at ADP. I'm not overweight, but I have a healthy 9%. I hear a lot of people touting him as being basically undraftable at current price. I don't disagree there is an opportunity cost at his ADP compared to the TEs + QBs that are being drafted there. But I also think his skill set fits nicely with Jayden and that this will translate well to best ball, especially when Terry is the 3rd or 4th WR in the build.

Pros:

1. He's by far the best receiver on the roster, and it's not really close.

2. Jayden is pretty good at pushing the ball down field, which fits Terry's skill set.

3. Dan Quinn has specifically made reference to a big part of his offensive strategy being to push the ball down field.

4. While I think BTJ and Nabers are great players in their own respect, Jayden just supported both of them into high end draft capital, which I think goes both ways between QB and WR.

5. The Commanders defense is likely to be trash, especially after they were giving away defensive players at the trade deadline last season.

Cons:

1. Jayden is a rushing QB, albeit undersized, limiting passing volume. But Terry has never been a high volume receiver.

2. Jayden is a rookie.

3. Mariota is the backup.

4. They will likely want to be run heavy with BRob and Ekeler. But if the defense is bad, this will only go so far.

Profit?

I think even with the field is reasonable for Terry, I’m slightly underweight (6%) and Jayden’s my highest owned qb, but I mostly backstack him if I miss on top guys so I’m usually not planning it by the time Terry comes around

I think he’s a bit underrated talent wise at this point, after being a bit overrated historically.

I do really prefer to stack him with Jayden bc if he has a good yr + Jayden rushing you’re normally getting a big value on Jayden in the low 100s

I try to do a lot of Andrews/Lamar, Mahomes/Hollywood, or just grab top te in that part of the draft which contributes to me being a bit underweight also

I thought it was a hammy ?

For me it's because his finishing positions have been WR29 , 20, 25, 14 and 28 and I expect this year to be much the same. Which is good for his ADP but I doubt he is ever going to be the guy that really adds something to your team.

I'd much rather take that pick on a Stroud, Richardson, Kamara, Andrews, Pitts (going by draft kings ADP here) and then target Coleman, Thomas Jr, McKonkey, Reed and Watson at WR who have much lower floors than McLaurin but higher upside. Now that upside chance may be slim but thats what you need to win big in these massive entry comps imo

I agree with this. Even Mixon and White probably have higher ceilings than Terry.

For sure. There is a lot to like at that part of the draft board. One thing I struggle on is I really like the TEs/QBs in rounds 4-7, but I also really like the TEs/QBs in rounds 8-10. So targeting a QB with Jayden's upside is easier when I can take his projected top pass catcher at the opportunity cost of Mahomes or Lamar.

I'd say I have Jayden on roughly half of my Terry teams.

All reports are that he's past the hammy issue.

Yeah, maybe he doesn't have enough of a ceiling compared to a lot of the guys going around him, especially when factoring in the onesie upside factors at TE/QB.

But what if now that he has a QB with a legit arm, he finally hits that top 12 ceiling? The starting QBs in his 5 seasons have been Case Keenum, Alex Smith, Taylor Heinicke, and Sam Howell. I don't think Dan Quinn or Kliff are anything special, but it's likely they're both better than Ron and the OCs that have made their way through Washington. The offensive pace should be top 5-10 in the NFL.

I'd probably have less of Terry on DK, but the WR ADPs are more reasonable over there. And .5 PPR versus full PPR would be a factor too.

The 1v1 or 2v2 also plays a factor. I'd simply much rather be drafting a WR in Terry at the end of round 4/5 than Mixon/Jacobs/Cook/White types, when I can fill those spots with projectable RBs a few rounds later.

If I'm passing on Terry, it's mostly for QB or TE. But if I start with 1 or 2 RBs in the first 3 rounds, then Terry doesn't look that bad at the 4/5 turn.

All fair rebuttals, though. Thanks, dudes.

Who do you guys think are the best qb ADP values in UD?

I tried to put together a top 10, but curious on others thoughts

1. Hurts (~8 picks value, but early in the draft so more valuable than later)
2. Dak
3. Jayden
4. Burrow
5. Herbert
6. Tlaw
7. Maye
8. Carr
9. Nix
10. Allen

Maybe not values necessarily, but I also like the prices for Mahomes, Kyler, Tua, and Goff.

I'm equally drafting most QBs, with Cousins, Stafford, and Rodgers probably being my lowest.

I think I have 1 Cousins and Stafford and 0 Rodgers

Javonte took the first team reps in every drill

Perine likely to be cut per twitter (which is kinda what everyone expected I think)

Estime is going in the 16th.

JK Dobbins is in full pads and practicing.

Definitely seen some Estime steam. But I still got him at 203 in a draft earlier.

I’ve had to reach to get him recently and even that hasn’t always worked .

from today's practice

Kendre Miller already out with a hamstring.

Guess I’m done drafting him. Had been scooping the falling value, as the vibes have been trending downward. Got him at 155 earlier today before this report.

Think I have around 10%.

Yikes.

I’m unfortunately at 10% as well…

I’ve really struggled with the community idea that Kamara is a bad pick at cost. I get his efficiency is down, the o line sucks, the offense has questions, etc.

But how does he not have an 70%+ snap share? As a back that can lead the league in RB target share.

Yea that’s my reasoning behind liking Rashaad White and Kamara . They get a ton of targets and in ppr they have such a high floor.

15% Kamara
4% Kendre
2% Jamaall

24% Kamara
0% the other two

Definitely more palatable in PPR versus .5 PPR. And those guys should get the goal line work too.

I’m 10% Kendre and 6% Kamara.