Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.

This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.

Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.

Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.

So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.

Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.

So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.

We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.

Thanks.

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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by Crossnerd P

When I took over the moderation of the I/P thread, I took it upon myself to personally reach out to Mets to address any unresolved issues. These were my messages (I will not post his replies).

Furthermore, the first person to receive a timeout and the first person to receive a ban in the I/P thread under my moderation were posters who insulted Mets. If anything, I have treated Mets with special consideration , as evidenced above.

I understand

Actions speak louder than words


The fairest thing you could do would be to leave the I/P thread alone


by Crossnerd P

For the fifth time, Mets does not need to grovel. He doesn’t even need to apologize. But he does need to *change his behavior*.

how does he demonstrate that. what are the practical steps.


by Rococo P

Also, we are all adults. Adults should be able to control their emotions on the internet.

Strange fantasy world you are living in.


how many times does she have to say that just needs mets to follow the rules that apply to everyone. no grovelling, just follow the rules. how hard is that? how hard is that to understand? defending the honour of the most mediocre poster that the internet ever produced is such a bizarre use of the finite time we have on this planet / hill to die on. get a hobby


by BOIDS P

how does he demonstrate that. what are the practical steps.

We’ve already been over this and he is more than aware of them.


ok and posting 69 thousand and 8 times on a forum is also a bizarre use of time, we're all in the same plague pits here pal


by PointlessWords P

The fairest thing you could do would be to leave the I/P thread alone

Crossnerd was brought in specifically to mod the I/P thread because it was generating a lot of inappropriate posts (with post reports and complaints) and no one else wanted to spend the time necessary to keep up with it.


It's funny because it's 100% plausible that back in the day xnerd said something about mets that crossed a line and could reasonably call into doubt her impartiality as a mod. But BOIDS is so casually evasive and dishonest about the whole affair that it's impossible to take the complaint seriously at any level. Like, just telling the truth ought to help your case, mate.


by PointlessWords P

And Mets has to grovel to come back


Personally, crossnerd shouldn’t be a mod here because of it

by Didace P

Groveling and committing to a change in behavior are not the same things.

Getting people to admit they were wrong on the internet is a death sentence.

I disagreed with Mets and would like to have him back, but since nobody else will moderate the IP thread, we have to abide by crossnerd's call.


That Mets managed to get perm'd before Victor in that thread is a miracle of science and religion


Oh I could be wrong. I’m speaking mostly in hyperbole as they say


Mets is a teacher and should be given the benefit of a doubt.


by PointlessWords P

Oh I could be wrong. I’m speaking mostly in hyperbole as they say


Mets is a teacher and should be given the benefit of a doubt.

My brother in Christ, the word you're looking for is "bullshit". That is what they say.


by 72off P

how many times does she have to say that just needs mets to follow the rules that apply to everyone. no grovelling, just follow the rules. how hard is that? how hard is that to understand? defending the honour of the most mediocre poster that the internet ever produced is such a bizarre use of the finite time we have on this planet / hill to die on. get a hobby

You’ve made 69000 shitposts on a dead forum basically talking to nobody. Get a grip lmao


by rafiki P

That Mets managed to get perm'd before Victor in that thread is a miracle of science and religion

And despite all of the campaigning from you and BGP


by rafiki P

That Mets managed to get perm'd before Victor in that thread is a miracle of science and religion

Victor listens to me when I ask him to stop.


CN is behooving the lord's duty babysitting the Middle East thread. The aegis runs strong with many of the posters.


I’d like to see the fascist pig post personally. Anyone have receipts


by PointlessWords P

I’d like to see the fascist pig post personally. Anyone have receipts

There is no such post.

There is however this post from 4-22-24: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...

by Crossnerd P

Is this “Jews” in quotes directed toward micro and myself?

Heinous stuff, even for a little fascist worm like you, Mets.

I’d rather be called a pig than a worm. Pigs gift you bacon when you’ve been good. Worms are just disgusting vile things.


by All-inMcLovin P


I’d rather be called a pig

I knew you were five-o!


by rafiki P

That Mets managed to get perm'd before Victor in that thread is a miracle of science and religion

Right, to me that is the issue. You have people in the thread who have referred to Jews as Nazis, characterized them as people who use dogs to commit rape, baby killers and worse. I didn’t agree with or particularly care for Mets posts, but banning him clearly isn’t due to some sort of standard of behavior in that thread. The result of this sort of suppression is just that fewer and fewer people are going to be comfortable posting on this forum.


by d2_e4 P

I knew you were five-o!

Didn’t you see Superbad?

I’m not a cop but I do hang out with them.


I’m just saying I don’t think a mod that makes those comments should be modding Mets’ posts. That’s all basically.


Free Mets 2024


by PointlessWords P


Free Mets 2024

Repeating this achieves nothing other than making you look childish, IMO. Not saying you shouldn't make your argument or whatever, just that signing off with this line is dumb.


I want Mets to know we care about him.

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by PointlessWords P

I’m just saying I don’t think a mod that makes those comments should be modding Mets’ posts. That’s all basically.


Free Mets 2024

It seems like only yesterday you were saying I shouldn’t mod that thread because you thought I was Jewish.


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