Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
obv there is an understood Israel in those statements doing the killing.
language can be ambiguous. context matters. bad faith actors often use this as weapon.
just for the record, I do not think that you or chillrob kill babies or are baby murderers.
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free mets
in general, I give people the benefit of the doubt and try to communicate in good faith. Im not perfect but there is a major difference in how I address some on this forum and thats bc I tend to treat others as they treat me.
in general, I give people the benefit of the doubt and try to communicate in good faith. Im not perfect but there is a major difference in how I address some on this forum and thats bc I tend to treat others as they treat me.
Your capacity for lacking self awareness would make Donald Trump jealous.
This took me a bit under 8 minutes Victor.
To Chillrob "bc you love killing children and you love nazies"
To Mets (and us): "This is what you guys love. murdering babies"
How you'd typically talk to us all
"will provide some material to the zionist baby murder supporters"
I spent no time at all there, did not have to go very far back either. There are SO many of these. You really wanted to try to bluff past this? Imagine if I put in s
Rafiki, I can understand your frustration, and I’ve attempted to provide a bit of clarity on this issue. I agree and acknowledge that the “baby killer” issue happened and was a major issue of contention.
I notice all your instances are from before I took over the thread. I cannot go back in time and correct them or moderate them. I *have* undertaken a major effort to get certain issues to stop, and I think even Victor would agree he knows he can’t do that any longer. Do you believe they have stopped? Are there instances you can find after 5/12 when I took over that occurred or went unmoderated?
Victor served a month off and has been on good behavior since coming back.
I guess what I’m asking is what do you want me to do about the past? I am only in charge of the present.
D2, just a request but would you mind letting me work out this issue with Rafiki/Victor without the extra commentary please. It’s just easier for me to handle things.
No problem.
I guess what I’m asking is what do you want me to do about the past? I am only in charge of the present.
I'm sure rafiki will answer for himself, but I'll just say that when I read his post I didn't assume he was looking for you to do anything, but was just disputing Victor's statement.
if we could harness the power of the passive-aggressiveness on this forum i feel like we could accomplish some pretty incredible things
I'm sure rafiki will answer for himself, but I'll just say that when I read his post I didn't assume he was looking for you to do anything, but was just disputing Victor's statement.
Rafiki has expressed a lot of frustration to me individually and has at least implied he shares the view that I have “chased away the Jews”, which was personally very upsetting to me.
So far, the only responses I have received have been about the behavior of other posters that I have already put an end to and have moderated heavily since. Which is why I asked for examples from after I took over the thread.
If the answer is Xnerd, there’s nothing you can do, we just want to constantly complain about the past being unpunished, then fine. But that’s not what I’ve been hearing in their feedback.
They want me permabanned. And proly even drone striked. Or is it struck? Sounds weird
That was a joke
I just don’t know what the point is to carping incessantly over an issue that as far as I can tell has been fixed.
If it hasn’t been fixed, please show me. If it has been fixed, please move on from complaining about it in the moderation thread.
It’s fixed, let’s move on.
Just think, Luciom will be back from his summer holiday soon so expect dozens of posts about how he doesnt understand the mod rules. Maybe save your energy for that inevitability?
It’s fixed, let’s move on.
Just think, Luciom will be back from his summer holiday soon so expect dozens of posts about how he doesnt understand the mod rules. Maybe save your energy for that inevitability?
I'm sure he has used his time off to reflect and brush up on his moderation avoidance/evasion skills.
I don't think there will be a coordinated campaign to get lucium permabanned.
I just don’t know what the point is to carping incessantly over an issue that as far as I can tell has been fixed.
The point is to grind down the mods until they quit out of exasperation. It's the reason the past 3-4 mods have quit. Just keep relitigating every singe moderation decision, complain about any kind of disparity, and demand simple rules be explained over and over, it's a surefire plan.
On one hand I don’t envy moderating this forum cuz it’s a dumpster fire no matter what you do and someone will always be mad
On the other hand I got banned because I kept intentionally misspelling luciom’s screen name
Pick your battles I suppose
