Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
cn i haven't witnessed the aids of i/p so have no idea what had happened
i'm just saying that guys like mets are regular people who are normally good posters and good people who interact with others well who may just be dealing with an issue that they feel extremely passionate about
whereas trolly is just a worthless troll every single day and has never been anything other than that - i've had him on block for years
Correct. Every mod knows this as well, and none of them will explain why that should be allowed.
The post you’re referring to literally said “Mets is not a parent”. That’s the horrifying post Boids has been referring to. Sorry if you were taken in by it.
Wow, now you're doing what Trolly does!
You think that you know better than me which post(s) I was referring to?
I don't care what posts Boids was referring to, I know what I saw when you arrived.
Report posts that you feel violate the rules. Otherwise I’m not sure wish this discussion is for.
Nobody is getting banned because others request it. Goodnight.
I have reported them, many times. Nothing has ever come of it. Even when I point them out and ask why they should be allowed. The only mod who has ever given me an actual reply to my questions is the one from another forum whom you have now intimidated away from further participation in this thread (according to him, not me).
Of course no one should be banned because others request it. They should be banned based on their entire history on the site.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
Here is the post that has been mentioned by others ad nauseum in the thread. It was within the context of caring for children being killed in the conflict. I apologized afterward for the post being insensitive and I regret making it. I wasn’t a moderator at the time.
What else “horrified” you, Rob? And as an aside, are there nightmares in your closet?
cn i haven't witnessed the aids of i/p so have no idea what had happened
i'm just saying that guys like mets are regular people who are normally good posters and good people who interact with others well who may just be dealing with an issue that they feel extremely passionate about
whereas trolly is just a worthless troll every single day and has never been anything other than that - i've had him on block for years
bolded is a pretty standard internet take. its like, why should your opinion matter when you just said that you have no idea what is going on? its really off and I see it a lot.
I have reported them, many times. Nothing has ever come of it. Even when I point them out and ask why they should be allowed. The only mod who has ever given me an actual reply to my questions is the one from another forum whom you have now intimidated away from further participation in this thread (according to him, not me).
Of course no one should be banned because others request it. They should be banned based on their entire history on
A mod from another forum doesn’t matter. They mod their forum their way and we mod our forum our way.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
Here is the post that has been mentioned by others ad nauseum in the thread. It was within the context of caring for children being killed in the conflict. I apologized afterward for the post being insensitive and I regret making it. I wasn’t a moderator at the time.
What else “horrified” you, Rob? And as an aside, are there nightmares in your closet?
No, that post is not what I was thinking of.
It was about something he did in the past to a friend of yours, with whom it seemed he had some kind of relationship.
You clearly somehow know details about him IRL, as you addressed him by first name in one of the
PMs you posted here, basically doxing him. I mentioned that a day or two ago, and you didn't respond to that either.
And now, you are here insulting me and speculating about my mental health.
bolded is a pretty standard internet take. its like, why should your opinion matter when you just said that you have no idea what is going on? its really off and I see it a lot.
He sees Trolly post in every other thread here! Why would his opinion on that not matter?
I no longer read the I/P myself anymore, because your constant lies about me and personal attacks on me literally made me feel ill.
bolded is a pretty standard internet take. its like, why should your opinion matter when you just said that you have no idea what is going on? its really off and I see it a lot.
normally i would agree, but i was talking about body of work not a specific outlier
and body of work is what posters should be judged upon, not the handful of big posts they made that are not representative of their true selves
A mod from another forum doesn’t matter. They mod their forum their way and we mod our forum our way.
Well, it could clue you in to the fact that the mods here may be doing things the wrong way. Or maybe you could ask him to explain something to you like a 5-year old.
Nice how you ignored the rest of my post, yet again.
No, that post is not what I was thinking of.
It was about something he did in the past to a friend of yours, with whom it seemed he had some kind of relationship.
You clearly somehow know details about him IRL, as you addressed him by first name in one of the m
PMs you posted here, basically doxing him. I mentioned that a day or two ago, and you didn't respond to that either.
Mets is a regular in POG, everyone knows his name. It is freely available on this site and he doesn’t care.
I met many people from the POG community over the years. Probably 15+. Several of them I saw repeatedly because I lived in Las Vegas and everyone would come for the series. One of the poggers I met and became friends with has dated Mets in the past. That does not make ME have a relationship with Mets, no matter how he wants to spin it.
It makes me deeply uncomfortable how familiar Mets claims and acts towards me. I do not know him. I have never met him. I don’t like how he insinuated a degree of closeness that is not there, and this has been an issue with him and other female posters across the span of many years.
I do not moderate Mets based on my knowledge of him. I am agnostic when it comes to penalties. The fact remains that escalating penalties have no worked with Mets, and now he has finally reached the end of the line.
He can come back when he is reformed.
normally i would agree, but i was talking about body of work not a specific outlier
and body of work is what posters should be judged upon, not the handful of big posts they made that are not representative of their true selves
right but he was banned for his posting in the IP thread specifically. so you are missing a pertinent piece of his body of work.
Rafiki has expressed a lot of frustration to me individually and has at least implied he shares the view that I have “chased away the Jews”, which was personally very upsetting to me.
Post our PMs, this time you have MY permission.
We already did this once. By all means. You were accused of no such thing. In fact just the opposite, I told you it had nothing to do with you. It was just during your watch, and it was well beyond your control.
Post our PMs, this time you have MY permission.
We already did this once. By all means. You were accused of no such thing. In fact just the opposite, I told you it had nothing to do with you. It was just during your watch, and it was well beyond your control.
How is “during your watch” then “nothing to do with you”? Make it make sense to me. In what way have I not made myself available to you?
In EVERY WAY I heard out you and Mets. I specifically reached out to him to ask how to improve the thread for you all, you’ve seen it with your own eyes.
I reached out to YOU to ask how I can improve your experience.
Cooperate with me!! I WANT to be your friend.
Mets is a regular in POG, everyone knows his name. It is freely available on this site and he doesn’t care.
I met many people from the POG community over the years. Probably 15+. Several of them I saw repeatedly because I lived in Las Vegas and everyone would come for the series. One of the poggers I met and became friends with has dated Mets in the past. That does not make ME have a relationship with Mets, no matter how he wants to spin it.
Alright, well at least I am now absolutely certain that I didn't somehow confuse you with another person.
You grossly attacked him based on the way he treated your friend, which had no place in this forum and was the harshest personal attack I have ever seen on this site.
All of you, COME ON. I am your friend, Work with me here.
this actually reminds me of why you hate me so much. you got so mad and confused that you accused me of not being an non-English speaker long ago. this was ofc, not just racist but also your perception was not shared by anybody, even my worst enemies.
with that being said, I think if you scroll up then you will see why I think he is referring to mets.
Alright, well at least I am now absolutely certain that I didn't somehow confuse you with another person.
You grossly attacked him based on the way he treated your friend, which had no place in this forum and was the harshest personal attack I have ever seen on this site.
Please show me the “harshest personal attack I have ever seen on this site”. I am sure I would apologize.
How is “during your watch” then “nothing to do with you”? Make it make sense to me. In what way have I not made myself available to you?
There were 1000 cuts before you became green in that thread, and the impact of them was and is real. You simply arrived by the time the damage was done, and the last fairly reasonable posters simply had enough with constantly being called baby murderers and evil zionists (which is 9/10 jews for people keeping score).
It's not on you that we just finally mostly realized the best thing to do was avoid that level of toxicity entirely. So again, not on you.
You sure seem particularly distressed about Rafiki's opinions of you. His merely liking several posts ITT a couple weeks ago led to you having something of a meltdown, and you are doing it again right now. It is almost like we've seen this before...
You sure seem particularly distressed about Rafiki's opinions of you. His merely liking several posts ITT a couple weeks ago led to you having something of a meltdown, and you are doing it again right now. It is almost like we've seen this before...
Rafiki, Luciom, Schlitz, Mets
All on one (obvious) side of a political issue. 3 of those guys are banned right now.
I don't actually think for a second that that's THE issue. But the optics of it aren't helping either.
And fwiw Crossnerds has been trying very hard to balance this out recently, so it's not for lack of trying. I do want to highlight this.
how many times did Schlitz say to "kill em all Bibi"?
Lucium was banned for saying that the whole "Jews will not replace us" thing wasnt so bad.
this is the stuff that you want to defend?
how many times did Schlitz say to "kill em all Bibi"?
Lucium was banned for saying that the whole "Jews will not replace us" thing wasnt so bad.
this is the stuff that you want to defend?
Victor them being gone and you being here seems more improbable than faking the moon landing to me. But here we are...
Btw when you post with glee that an IDF unit has been slaughtered (including graphic footage) you're pretty much channeling the same energy as Schlitz. You just found a way to do it and not get the boot. But let's just be honest with each other...
In the immortal words of Charlie Murphy, you're a habitual line-stepper. And I think you definitely get off on it.
