Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.

This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.

Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.

Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.

So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.

Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.

So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.

We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.

Thanks.

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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I don’t care about the opinions so much as I care about the individuals, which I feel I’ve made abundantly clear, Donk.


Schlitz was banned for calling black people c***s and calling Arabs sand n******.

Those posts were deleted, but that’s why Schlitz was banned.

Are you certain you want to cite him as someone from your “side”?


by rafiki P

Victor them being gone and you being here seems more improbable than faking the moon landing to me. But here we are...

Btw when you post with glee that an IDF unit has been slaughtered (including graphic footage) you're pretty much channeling the same energy as Schlitz. You just found a way to do it and not get the boot. But let's just be honest with each other...

In the immortal words of Charlie Murphy, you're a habitual line-stepper. And I

I have not posted any resistance videos in a long time after I was chastised for it. nor have I posted any of the massacre videos from the IDF.

regardless we know what those units are doing in Gaza right now and while I do not like the idea that brainwashed 19 year olds are dying, its preferable in my humble opinion to the kids they are murdering.


by Crossnerd P

I don’t care about the opinions so much as I care about the individuals, which I feel I’ve made abundantly clear, Donk.

That's what I am saying. You have biases against certain individuals. You've certainly been abundantly pretty clear about that.


by DonkJr P

That's what I am saying. You have biases against certain individuals. You've certainly been abundantly pretty clear about that.

It’s demonstrably not true and I’m done addressing it. Maybe ask Chillrob what he’s seen.


Man, why don't you guys give Crossnerd a break? You've been at this for 2 days now, in shifts it seems.


by d2_e4 P

Man, why don't you guys give Crossnerd a break? You've been at this for 2 days now, in shifts it seems.

It’s my own fault. I’m trying to make everyone happy and that’s a silly goal. :p


by Crossnerd P

It’s demonstrably not true and I’m done addressing it. Maybe ask Chillrob what he’s seen.

Right, demonstrably not true. 🙄

If you don't want to address it, then don't address it. If you do address it, people are going to respond.


by DonkJr P

Right, demonstrably not true. 🙄

If you don't want to address it, then don't address it. If you do address it, people are going to respond.

I’ve addressed it ad nauseum, ad infinitum. You refuse to comprehend.


by Crossnerd P

I’ve addressed it ad nauseum, ad infinitum. You refuse to comprehend.

I comprehend just fine. You refuse to accept that people disagree with you.

Some serious advice, CN, which I mentioned a few months ago, the other mods also suggested, and I extend in good faith: accept that people are going to disagree with your moderation decisions a good amount of the time. There is nothing you can do about it, and if your decisions are within reason, people will ultimately accept it or at least learn to live with it. You are going to have a bad time if this tit-for-tat happens every time somebody says "free mets." Just scroll past those posts, don't address them, and enjoy these forums for what they are. OTOH, if you insist on winning these arguments, you are going to have a bad time, as people will challenge you every single time.

Just my $.02. You can take it or leave it.


^^Free advice > free mets.


DonkJr, the rules are the rules for the I/P thread. Everyone else conformed.

Victor was asked to stop calling people baby killers and he served a month off. Victor stopped.

Mets was asked to stop calling people antisemites, and he did not stop.

You can search for Victor’s infractions and can’t kind any past 5/12 when I asked him to stop. The same cannot be said about Mets, who has incessantly, repeatedly accused literally everyone of being an antisemite, including the mods, to the point that the thread needed to be closed not once, but twice.

The campaign in this thread isn’t helping Mets’ cause; it’s hurting it. None of the mods look forward to the constant issues he causes, when he is here, when he is exiled, and assuredly when he comes back given your collective condoning of his violation of the rules.

It’s truly enough. Move on.


by DonkJr P

I comprehend just fine. You refuse to accept that people disagree with you.

by Crossnerd P

DonkJr, the rules are the rules for the I/P thread. Everyone else conformed.

Victor was asked to stop calling people baby killers and he served a month off. Victor stopped.

Mets was asked to stop calling people antisemites, and he did not stop.

You can search for Victor’s infractions and can’t kind any past 5/12 when I asked him to stop. The same cannot be said about Mets, who has incessantly, repeatedly accused literally everyone of being an

I rest my case. Have a good night! 😀


by Victor P

this actually reminds me of why you hate me so much. you got so mad and confused that you accused me of not being an non-English speaker long ago. this was ofc, not just racist but also your perception was not shared by anybody, even my worst enemies.

with that being said, I think if you scroll up then you will see why I think he is referring to mets.

Lol, you call me racist because I thought that your English was so bad you couldn't have been a native speaker. You seemed to pay more attention to your grammar and spelling after that, This is another of your bizarre attacks on me, how you call me and lots of others racist for things that have absolutely nothing to do with race.
Guess what, I also think Montreal and Luciom aren't native speakers. Do you think I am racist against them as well? Your written English is a bit better than that of Montreal, but a bit worse than Luciom's.


by Crossnerd P

Please show me the “harshest personal attack I have ever seen on this site”. I am sure I would apologize.

You truly can't see the ridiculousness of you, a moderator who has the power to delete posts, and who just admitted that one of her insults of Mets needed to be undeleted, asking me, a regular user who only has access to the worst search functions I've ever seen on any forum, to cite something you posted last year?

I'm sure it was deleted at the time along with the post about Mets not being able to care about the lives of children since he doesn't have any. But to be fair, that opinion is shared by such notable people as JD Vance, who believes Kamala Harris couldn't be a good president because she doesn't have kids.


by d2_e4 P

Man, why don't you guys give Crossnerd a break? You've been at this for 2 days now, in shifts it seems.

Yeah. It looks like there's no end in sight either.


by Crossnerd P

It’s my own fault. I’m trying to make everyone happy and that’s a silly goal. :p

You're trying to make everyone happy, but you still refuse to answer why the attacks on people Trolly makes every single day are allowed here.

You didn't even remark on the posts of two other people affirming that the only reason he is here is to try to upset others.


by d2_e4 P

Man, why don't you guys give Crossnerd a break? You've been at this for 2 days now, in shifts it seems.

She got a break when she locked the thread for 12 hours or whatever, because she was so upset by one day of a few people attacking her.

But guess what, I told her that I was upset by the year or so of people like Victor and Trolly attacking me, and she mocked my concerns.


People that are up in arms about trolly must literally have no sense of humor.


by chillrob P

You're trying to make everyone happy, but you still refuse to answer why the attacks on people Trolly makes every single day are allowed here.

You didn't even remark on the posts of two other people affirming that the only reason he is here is to try to upset others.

She said the attacks (effectively) are sarcasm, which is allowed.

I agree a lot of his posts are mean spirited.

by 5 south P

People that are up in arms about trolly must literally have no sense of humor.

"Joking" that chillrob isn't able to read is hardly funny.

It's different when the subject is out of line and deserves to be flamed.


by Crossnerd P

The post you’re referring to literally said “Mets is not a parent”. That’s the horrifying post Boids has been referring to. Sorry if you were taken in by it.

why are you pretending that you didn't come into the thread in aggro mode against mets, and that instead i am just taking one or two posts out of context to be mean. this is annoying.

by Crossnerd P

Lol, if someone spoke to me IRL about my child this way, I’d punch them in the face. You shouldn’t be around kids imo.

here, apologise for this one too

by Crossnerd P

Antisemite

and this one

these are not hard to find and there's plenty more to come if you keep gaslighting me. you made fifty posts directly responding to him in three months, none of them are friendly, and none of them got a response because he put your ass on ignore two seconds after you arrived

just level with us (yourself?) and come to terms with the fact that you obviously have big personal **** with mets which makes you a bad person to perma him, acknowledge that me and rob are not making up your aggressive posting towards him when you arrived, then unban mets. then unban BUTTON


by d2_e4 P

Man, why don't you guys give Crossnerd a break? You've been at this for 2 days now, in shifts it seems.


****ing this. Holy ****. Is there no point where people can just decide they've said their piece and move on?


Pretty sure crossnerd has said multiple times that it wasn’t her sole decision to ban Mets but an agreed decision between mods.

I’d also throw in my $.02 and say mods engaging people in this discussion any further is only fanning flames if they have no intention of considering reversing the decision. Everyone who’s got big feelings about this knows everyone else’s feelings on the issue at this point.


by BOIDS P

unban BUTTON

Dude, button was banned out of ATF, and much as I miss his dulcet tones, it's probably for his own good.


by Bubble_Balls P

I’d also throw in my $.02 and say mods engaging people in this discussion any further is only fanning flames if they have no intention of considering reversing the decision. Everyone who’s got big feelings about this knows everyone else’s feelings on the issue at this point.


Yeah, this is a good point and Crossnerd has alluded to it herself. I can absolutely 100% understand where she's coming from in wanting to make everyone happy or at least come to an understanding, probably to a fault (I'm the same way), but at some point she may need to bring the discussion to an end.

by d2_e4 P

Dude, button was banned out of ATF ... it's probably for his own good.


This. That party is over.


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