2024 ELECTION THREAD

2024 ELECTION THREAD

The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?


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14 July 2022 at 02:28 PM
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I've never voted Democrat or Republican in a presidential election.

I might actually vote Kamala-Walz this year.

Good veep pick.


house is not wrong though


I see ads of Kamala pushing the 'Trump will ban abortions ASAP' narrative strongly. Is it okay to point out that she's being a vicious liar, or would that disrupt 2p2's party-lines too much?


by Tuma P

I see ads of Kamala pushing the 'Trump will ban abortions ASAP' narrative strongly. Is it okay to point out that she's being a vicious liar, or would that disrupt 2p2's party-lines too much?

Vicious liar is a bit much. Trump and the new GOP paltform says he would leave it to the states but Project 2025 would push to ban medication abortion.


by The Horror P

Vicious liar is a bit much. Trump and the new GOP paltform says he would leave it to the states but Project 2025 would push to ban medication abortion.

Project 2025 abortion section is bad yes; I was hoping democrats understood the FDA can be used to violently reduce freedom federally, against the constitution, but not even a blip on that :-(

Note: the federal government should NOT have the power, does NOT have the power, to ban a substance nationwide, it's not one of the enumerated powers of the federal government.

It can ban importing a substance yes.

It's not, or it should not, be about "FDA shouldn't ban abortion pills". It should be "FDA shouldn't have that power"


by Tuma P

I see ads of Kamala pushing the 'Trump will ban abortions ASAP' narrative strongly. Is it okay to point out that she's being a vicious liar, or would that disrupt 2p2's party-lines too much?

One of the lies is that POTUS doesn't write laws


I might have to sharpie all over my claim that Trump hasn't yet turned into a puddle of orange jello, today's rally in Montana wasn't one of best ones. Lots of attacking Biden, oh boy that's gonna hurt Biden in the election, but also he thought democrats were really unfair to Biden. Said again he's heard that Biden will take back the nomination during the convention. Something something Kamala's name radical left blaa blaa. Big brain glitches. Simultaneously Harris/Walz were speaking to a full arena and Walz joking about crowd size. Poor Donny.

No events on the calendar currently, I guess they've figured that nobody is gonna vote for him based on these, if not the opposite. At least the orange jr's were talking online about upcoming crypto scam, so it might be full-on milk the plerbs for money before it's all over -mode soon.


Fox's strange campaign against Taylor Swift.

For people against cancel culture they sure take part in it quite often.


Elon Musk ramps up efforts to tip the election to Trump

Billionaire openly engages in election interference to secure tax cuts.

using "register to vote" prompts to collect highly detailed information from potential voters in swing states


by Luciom P

One of the lies is that POTUS doesn't write laws

This sort of "lie" has been around for my entire lifetime. Presidential candidates always say, "when I am president, I will ensure that XYZ happens," even if XYZ requires the approval of Congress.

Trump lies all the time, but I didn't view his repeated proclamations to repeal the Affordable Care Act as chief among those lies. Like everyone else, I understood that he was speaking in shorthand about what he hoped to accomplish.


Trump has nuked himself. Probably in Kamala's interest to continue to stay in hiding so she doesn't nuke herself.



by housenuts P

Trump has nuked himself. Probably in Kamala's interest to continue to stay in hiding so she doesn't nuke herself.


She should hide in Joe's basement and let Try destroy himself


by housenuts P

Trump has nuked himself. Probably in Kamala's interest to continue to stay in hiding so she doesn't nuke herself.

It's been a great few weeks for Kamala, but this election is still very much up in the air.

I do believe that a loss would mark the end of Trump as a person of serious influence in the GOP. Voters tend to be very unforgiving toward presidential candidates who lose to relatively weak opponents. Trump was able to mute that effect a bit by convincing the lunatic wing that the election against Biden was rigged.

But two consecutive losses to Biden and Kamala? I don't think he would be forgiven for that monumental underachievement.


by Rococo P

It's been a great few weeks for Kamala, but this election is still very much up in the air.

I do believe that a loss would mark the end of Trump as a person of serious influence in the GOP. Voters tend to be very unforgiving toward presidential candidates who lose to relatively weak opponents. Trump was able to mute that effect a bit by convincing the lunatic wing that the election against Biden was rigged.

But two consecutive losses to

I would say three losses if he losses again as the GOP did horrible in the primaries many of Trumps hand picked candidates got destroyed


Preet's last podcast on the VP pick is so great. Some highights:

-Right is going with the view that picking Walz is one of the biggest political mistakes of all time. That CRACKS me up. They scared.
-Walz vs Vance debate should be very good. Walz is very good on his feet and will do very well in the show.
-The momentum from the left right now is furious. And the "weird" angle is definitely landing.


Playing dirty is like pride going before the fall. Seems like many of the Left's tactics would be better served in the weeks before Election Day, not months.


by Rococo P

It's been a great few weeks for Kamala, but this election is still very much up in the air.

I do believe that a loss would mark the end of Trump as a person of serious influence in the GOP. Voters tend to be very unforgiving toward presidential candidates who lose to relatively weak opponents. Trump was able to mute that effect a bit by convincing the lunatic wing that the election against Biden was rigged.

But two consecutive losses to

Disagree entirely

If Trump loses it wouldn’t be his second consecutive loss, it would be his 4th. Both midterms were either lost or neutered because of him and his endorsements. Still, he’s the Republican Party and they’re in no position to quit him because he is the godking of MAGA and even if they’re a minority relative to the general public they’re a clear majority of the republicans and he will always be able to weaponize them to the polls against anyone who dares to speak against him

Trump can lose in November and even at 82 he’ll be the candidate in 4 years. As long as he’s alive he rules the GOP


by Rococo P

It's been a great few weeks for Kamala, but this election is still very much up in the air.

I do believe that a loss would mark the end of Trump as a person of serious influence in the GOP. Voters tend to be very unforgiving toward presidential candidates who lose to relatively weak opponents. Trump was able to mute that effect a bit by convincing the lunatic wing that the election against Biden was rigged.

But two consecutive losses to

Harris is definitely doing better than I thought she would . Her ascent to the nomination went about as smooth as possible which wasn’t guaranteed at least imo. After Jan 6 and Trump costing the party the senate I’m not sure what short of death will get them to move on. And even then you’ll have people going over his tweets like first century christians inventing a second coming, all of this is part of the plan etc.



If you need a bot or/and someone you don't know anything about his credibility to tell you who has credibility or not...
I tend to meet people and get to know them before I can make an assessment of their personality. And the same for information. I tend to read it, see its sources and see if the narrative makes sense. But I understand that in this tiktok era it is hard to focus and read and listen to information. Unfortunately, everyone loses, but that is probably its purpose, to make people numb and dumb to be better controlled.

No, we don't have a monarchy nor a dictatorship. Is this news to you?

You take a piece of my text and make a remark out of context? Well, maybe it was intended.
Yeah, I am pretty aware USA and many other countries have a kakistocracy and are trying to join that to a technocracy.
https://corbettreport.com/interview-1024...
https://corbettreport.com/qfc-technocrac...
https://corbettreport.com/interview-1512...

lol, you know it's going to be trash because it's trying to trade off of similarity to the colbert report like washington times tries to fool you it's washington post

Right, right... Amazing how you can come to such a conclusion, just because of that. That is going really deep. Congrats!


by pokeringo P

If you need a bot or/and someone you don't know anything about his credibility to tell you who has credibility or not...

This assessment was done by neither a bot nor someone for whom we have no idea of their credibility.

That assessment is done by a very well-known organization that reports on the credibility of media outlets, is very open about how they do this, and provides concrete examples to back up their assessment.

You can't just handwave that assessment away like that.


by StoppedRainingMen P

Disagree entirely

If Trump loses it wouldn’t be his second consecutive loss, it would be his 4th. Both midterms were either lost or neutered because of him and his endorsements. Still, he’s the Republican Party and they’re in no position to quit him because he is the godking of MAGA and

So why doesn't a Trump endorsement automatically guarantee a primary win even?


by StoppedRainingMen P

Disagree entirely

If Trump loses it wouldn’t be his second consecutive loss, it would be his 4th. Both midterms were either lost or neutered because of him and his endorsements. Still, he’s the Republican Party and they’re in no position to quit him because he is the godking of MAGA and even if they’re a minority relative to the general public they’re a clear majority of the republicans and he will always be abl

I agree that he was a drag on the midterms as well.

You are underestimating how quickly things can change. Critical mass can build quickly. You just saw how quickly the Democrats turned on Biden once they concluded that he had to go.


by Rococo P

I agree that he was a drag on the midterms as well.

You are underestimating how quickly things can change. Critical mass can build quickly. You just saw how quickly the Democrats turned on Biden once they concluded that he had to go.

But that just isn’t the same. Biden never really generated enthusiasm among the Dems even in 2020 and was just a transactional candidate whereas trump is probably the most popular Republican since reagan


joe wasn't a cult leader.

the cult will not turn on trump if he loses, it will simply loss the rubber stamp from the scumbags in the party like house that only cared about their pockets being lined.


Trump is definitely a cult leader and comparing any candidate to him is a mistake cuz there simply has not been and is unlikely to be a candidate like him in american history who has such cultish devotion people deny reality to accept his version of it and engage in unrest, violence and outright terrorism for him

Treating him as a normal presidential candidate is a mistake


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