In other news
In the current news climate we see that some figures and events tend to dominate the front-pages heavily. Still, there are important, interesting or just plain weird things happening out there and a group of people can find these better than one.
I thought I would test with a thread for linking general news articles about "other news" and discussion. Perhaps it goes into the abyss that is page 2 and beyond, but it is worth a try.
Some guidelines:
- Try to find the "clean link", so that links to the news site directly and not a social media site. Avoid "amp-links" (google).
- Write some cliff notes on what it is about, especially if it is a video.
- It's not an excuse to make outlandish claims via proxy or link extremist content.
- If it's an editorial or opinion piece, it is polite to mark it as such.
- Note the language if it is not in English.
- There is no demand that such things be posted here, if you think a piece merits its own thread, then make one.
3 italian young women in Ragusa, Sicily, were molested by an immigrant from Bangladesh and a friend of his.
They managed to discover where one of the two molester lived, organized a punitive expedition against him, massacred him with punches and kicks then stabbed him (1 month prognosis, no organ damage).
Italy becoming the new Sweden?
How did the vigilantes know they'd found the right person?
Hm no, especially because of reactions like these.
But anyway the percentage of foreign born here is very low compared to other EU countries (at like 8%), that of Muslims even lower (under 3%), so the scenario right now is more like Finland/Denmark than Sweden -like
Hm no, especially because of reactions like these.
But anyway the percentage of foreign born here is very low compared to other EU countries (at like 8%), that of Muslims even lower (under 3%), so the scenario right now is more like Finland/Denmark than Sweden -like
That's good.
I know it's hard to admit for Europeans but it doesn't seem like multiculturalism and mass import of immigrants is working very well over there.
I think if you look at how the far right anti-immigrant mob was outnumbered by orders of magnitude here (UK) you'll reconsider.
Sweden and Italy are much newer to immigration and they're about where the UK was in the 1960s.
A much stronger pro-immigration argument needs to made with more assistance to help immigrants integrate.
That's good.
I know it's hard to admit for Europeans but it doesn't seem like multiculturalism and mass import of immigrants is working very well over there.
Multiculturalism can mean many different things and it can work differently depending on the specific country, or area of the country.
For example for Italy in particular northern africa doesn't have an alien culture, especially for southern italy.
In sicily capital city (Palermo) one neighborhood is called Kalsa , from arabic al-kalhisa (the elected one, the chosen one).
Trapani (another sicilian city) most traditional food is couscous alla trapanese
We basically can very easily integrate northern africans, greeks, turks perhaps, albanian people, all countries whose population touched ours in the past, we shared trade for centuries, similar weather so similar food culture and so on and on.
Very different for all of them to live somewhere really cold, which can be some parts of northern italy, or worse (for them) scandinavia and stuff. Alien language, food, and so on.
Quantity of immigration isn't necessarily the problem, filtering is. We imported like more than 1 million of eastern european women super easily to work as house help for elders. Many northern africans in construction starting in the 80s, some of them working in manufacturing.
The sikh (a subdemographic from India) saved our parmesan (literally, no1 else wanted to work the cows properly like they do).
Problem is the randos coming in hoping in welfare and/or a chance to move to other european countries (native french speakers from africa don't care to stay here most of the time for example) than easily and quickly can become a problem.
The recent abuse of asylum seeking procedures (blatantly false claims allow to live here 1 year + paid by taxpayers while the claim is processed in courts that have too long of a backlog) didn't help either.
I think if you look at how the far right anti-immigrant mob was outnumbered by orders of magnitude here (UK) you'll reconsider.
Sweden and Italy are much newer to immigration and they're about where the UK was in the 1960s.
A much stronger pro-immigration argument needs to made with more assistance to help immigrants integrate.
Sweden has more foreign born people than the UK does, 3x Italy (like 25 vs 8%).
Uk is in the middle at around 16%.
Fwiw in Canada we see it too.
Imho multi culturalism is fine as long as immigrants understand that it can only works
By keeping western value in how to administrate the country…
If they revert back to theocratic value ( or anti secular concept) and shiat like that it’s doomed .
several media outlets received what appear to be leaked and/or hacked trump campaign information and chose not to publish it due to questions about it's authenticity..
i expect all the laptop crazies to be completely incensed by this and demand that this information be released to the public immediately.
I'm pretty sure a media company deciding what to and not to publish is a 1st amendment violation!
Republicans blocking measures to ensure election integrity and related attacks from enemies of the US should also be studied. What are they hiding?
Has anyone ever held more hearings that led to nothing than Jim Jordan?
Sweden is going to start a program to remigrate people who entered the country, took swedish citizenship, but failed to integrate.
On a voluntary basis and with a lump sum payment to get out of the country, lose citizenship and never come back.
Details will follow in the next days i guess, for now it's just announced in the making but close to be ready to start as a program.
The scary part is that (going with polls) something like 7-8 million americans (depending on turnout i guess) could vote for him.
He will get +/- 1% of the vote, which is around 1.5 million voters.
The MAGAts won't vote for him, and neither will the Democrats.
^ This would not surprise me in the least.
Sweden is going to start a program to remigrate people who entered the country, took swedish citizenship, but failed to integrate.
On a voluntary basis and with a lump sum payment to get out of the country, lose citizenship and never come back.
Details will follow in the next days i guess, for now it's just announced in the making but close to be ready to start as a program.
The US does it already but I don't think you get a pay out. Chip runner in one of the phnom penh card clubs was born in America, committed a felony and was deported back to Cambodia where he had never been in his life. Common with gang members of Latin American decent. Born US citizens but can still be sent back to their parent's country for (certain?) felonies.
The US does it already but I don't think you get a pay out. Chip runner in one of the phnom penh card clubs was born in America, committed a felony and was deported back to Cambodia where he had never been in his life. Common with gang members of Latin American decent. Born US citizens but can still be sent back to their parent's country for (certain?) felonies.
I find this very unlikely to be true. If you're born in the US you are a US citizen. Moreover, you're not automatically a citizen of your parents' country of birth. So, not only are you not able to deport a citizen, you'd not have anywhere to deport them to.
I suspect you are confusing this with a situation where someone was brought to the country as a baby or a toddler, in which case this can in fact happen. Not for someone born in the US though.
I find this very unlikely to be true. If you're born in the US you are a US citizen. Moreover, you're not automatically a citizen of your parents' country of birth. So, not only are you not able to deport a citizen, you'd not have anywhere to deport them to.
I suspect you are confusing this with a situation where someone was brought to the country as a baby or a toddler, in which case this can in fact happen. Not for someone born in the US t
Looks like you're right, my bad for the misinformation. I remember this kid telling me his story and not believing it because obviously you can't be deported as a US citizen but I went home and googled it and could have sworn there was this bs law about being born to immigrants and being at risk of deportation for certain violent crimes but I don't see anything about that now.
This is kind of a shame. Because the obvious compromise between "let everybody in" and "only let those in who are highly skilled in something we need" would be to let a moderately skilled immigrant in if we can find an American citizen with no dependents who is even less skilled at that endeavor, to deport.
This is kind of a shame. Because the obvious compromise between "let everybody in" and "only let those in who are highly skilled in something we need" would be to let a moderately skilled immigrant in if we can find an American citizen with no dependents who is even less skilled at that endeavor, to deport.
Where are you going to deport them to, brainiac? Or do we leave that little implementation detail for the bureaucrats to work out? I get it, I too am an ideas guy. Feed the mayonnaise to the tuna.
It seems like conservatives think "to deport someone" means "put them on the next Elon rocket to Mars" or something. The receiving country has to accept your deportee, you don't just get to send off whomever you like wherever you like.
