ex-President Trump

ex-President Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at low-info Boomers like my religions aunts. I have two questions:

a) Is anyone here who supports Trump bothered by lies like this?

b) Does anyone know what he's even talking about here? Like is there some grain of truth that he's embellishing on bigly?

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by Luciom P

They have policies, but many are horrific ones.

the current administration has policies, and yes many horrific. some might be good.

but kamala hasn't opined on any. curious to see how her policies may differ from robinette's.


by Slighted P

sure. that definitely happened. lol.

https://www.ontariocourts.ca/ocj/files/d...

clown


by Montrealcorp P

Trump went against republicans (that didn’t want to send money) and proudly said he was even better than democrats since his number in cash was higher in giving checks away then the democrats …..

all republicans in the senate and 98% of those in the house voted in favor so, no, stop making things up.

And ofc trump was happy being able to give cash around, after full bipartisan approval.

Republicans didn't want to send more money, later on, when everything could have been reopened in full (which republican states did), and when the only reason for a bad economy was the fascist approach to covid by democratic led states. And trump wasn't president anymore when that happened.


by housenuts P

the current administration has policies, and yes many horrific. some might be good.

but kamala hasn't opined on any. curious to see how her policies may differ from robinette's.

Pretty sure kamala already re-affirmed the will to cancel student loans as much as possible, and that she agreed with the bipartisan immigration compact that got canned some months ago.

She also came out in favour of removing taxes on tips


by Slighted P

even the pronoun stuff you are talking about is just made up in your own head so that maga's can justify their hate.

If you've ever held a job at a higher level than retail you would know its not made up.


by Luciom P

Sure, no company or college ever sent emails to all employees telling them to put the pronouns in their signature.

Even the NYT wrote about it ffs, why do you guys LIE EVERY SINGLE TIME ABOUT EVERYTHING?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/29/style...

And rightwing people want to discuss policies all the times. We want a public debate on how disastrous climate regulations are for the quality of life of the average

i'm an average joe actually living in the country we are talking about. i notice literally nothing disastrous about paying for/potentially paying more for climate policies. what i do see is the lack of regulation starting to make it unaffordable to insure your home in florida because of the effects of climate change. it doesn't seem like i'm the one living in an alternate reality.


by campfirewest P

If you've ever held a job at a higher level than retail you would know its not made up.

you got me there bro..

top of my list of clients are people going to jail because they called someone the wrong pronoun once. i can't dodge all these cases of criminal misgendering. going to have to expand offices.


canada? lol. and even that says they "may be invited" to share..


by Slighted P

i'm an average joe actually living in the country we are talking about. i notice literally nothing disastrous about paying for/potentially paying more for climate policies. what i do see is the lack of regulation starting to make it unaffordable to insure your home in florida because of the effects of climate change. it doesn't seem like i'm the one living in an alternate reality.

Lol

Americans’ reported willingness to pay a carbon fee reveals the complicated politics of carbon pricing. Less than half of Americans would pay even $1 per month, but the average willingness to pay across the entire adult population is about $36 per month, up from $31 last year. The average is driven by the quarter of respondents who are willing to pay $100 or more per month. Still, Americans’ willingness to pay for climate policy is far below the US EPA’s recent announcement that the costs of climate change have quadrupled, based on EPIC’s Climate Impact Lab.” – Michael Greenstone, director of EPIC and the Milton Friedman Distinguished Service Professor in Economics at the University of Chicago.

https://epic.uchicago.edu/area-of-focus/...

Keep denying that people don't want to pay more for "the climate". Yes on paper majorities are in favour of emission reduction and whatnot. When you ask them to pay for it, lol.


by Slighted P

canada? lol. and even that says they "may be invited" to share..

you are bad at reading, and just listening to people have experience in that actual matter at hand. if it doesn't fit your narrative, then it must be a lie.


by housenuts P

you are bad at reading, and just listening to people have experience in that actual matter at hand. if it doesn't fit your narrative, then it must be a lie.

this is a president trump thread. of america. talking about the MAGA policies. of america. and you're babbling about some random one off court memo inviting people to use whatever pronouns they identify as from Ontario as evidence that people are punished for pronouns.

no one is being punished for mistakenly misgendering someone. it just isn't a real thing that exists. it's all made up in your head.


by Slighted P

this is a president trump thread. of america. talking about the MAGA policies. of america. and you're babbling about some random one off court memo inviting people to use whatever pronouns they identify as from Ontario as evidence that people are punished for pronouns.

no one is being punished for mistakenly misgendering someone. it just isn't a real thing that exists. it's all made up in your head.

California is in the USA

https://www.yahoo.com/news/teacher-refus...

California school district has settled a lawsuit with a teacher who says she was fired over her religious beliefs after she refused to use students’ preferred pronouns, attorneys say.

The Jurupa Unified School District in Riverside County agreed to pay $360,000 to Jessica Tapia, her attorneys at Advocates for Faith & Freedom said in a May 14 news release.

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If you guys, say, stopped violating the most basic elements of the American constitution to push your horrific ideology we might stop talking about "pronouns"


by Luciom P

California is in the USA

https://www.yahoo.com/news/teacher-refus...

California school district has settled a lawsuit with a teacher who says she was fired over her religious beliefs after she refused to use students’ preferred pronouns, attorneys say.

The Jurupa Unified School District in Riverside County agreed to pay $360,000 to Jessica Tapia, her attorneys at Advocates for Faith & Freedom said i

there's nothing "mistakenly" about what that woman did. she intentionally discriminated against the kid because she's a bigot. and she received a nuisance settlement to gtfo.

i dont know how you can see it as the kid pushing their "horrific ideology" and not the teacher being the one pushing the "horrific ideology" other than you prefer her ideology. you are free to practice your insane invisible sky man thing that hates people different than your ideal in your own home, you shouldn't be preaching it at me in public.


by Slighted P


no one is being punished for mistakenly misgendering someone. it just isn't a real thing that exists. it's all made up in your head.

who is talking about being punished? i said pronouns are a waste of time and you said it's made it all up, and then didn't believe me when i posted reasoning why it's a waste of time.


by Slighted P

even the pronoun stuff you are talking about is just made up in your own head so that maga's can justify their hate.

by housenuts P

no. it's a waste of time. there was a period of time a few years ago when going to court you had to identify yourself in front of the judge, 'good morning your honour, counsel for the defendant, last name, first initial, i identity as he/him.

you would get scorned by the judge if you didn't provide your gender identity. was ridiculous. thankfully they realized it was ridiculous and got rid of it.

by Slighted P

sure. that definitely happened. lol.


by Slighted P

there's nothing "mistakenly" about what that woman did. she intentionally discriminated against the kid because she's a bigot. and she received a nuisance settlement to gtfo.

i dont know how you can see it as the kid pushing their "horrific ideology" and not the teacher being the one pushing the "horrific ideology" other than you prefer her ideology. you are free to practice your insane invisible sky man thing that hates people different

Wait so you actually agree with violating the constitution, 1a in particular, to push for your preferred ideology???

So it's true that you guys despise the constitution


by Slighted P

there's nothing "mistakenly" about what that woman did. she intentionally discriminated against the kid because she's a bigot. and she received a nuisance settlement to gtfo.

i dont know how you can see it as the kid pushing their "horrific ideology" and not the teacher being the one pushing the "horrific ideology" other than you prefer her ideology. you are free to practice your insane invisible sky man thing that hates people different

i hope you think this part is at least ridiculous.

school policy to not inform parents’ students of their gender identities


Trump isn't a *centrist*, but he's also not an ideological extremist. There are many Congresspeople (and many others who are too far right to win a seat in today's climate) who are comfortably to the right of Trump.

This will sound like a weird thing to say about somebody who has a good chance of being a two-time POTUS, but Donald Trump is ... not really political. He doesn't have a significant political agenda other than his own NPD-style search for evermore power and attention. He's been hanging around all these staffers and other suckup remora from the political sphere, so some of what they say will stick on to Donald for a while, but the effect is minimal, as he has Swiss cheese holes in his brain and has forgotten 98% of what they said by the time he speaks to a new person.

Anybody who posts even semi-regularly on this subforum is more concerned with political matters than Donald Trump.


by housenuts P

i hope you think this part is at least ridiculous.

We're just back to the weird label. If you guys think these are major national issues, keep talking about them. But republicans are already on the worst 30 year popular vote run in history. Normal people are fine without the federal government getting involved with this and non college white extremists are a shrinking demo.


by Karl_TheOG_Marx P

Trump isn't a *centrist*, but he's also not an ideological extremist. There are many Congresspeople (and many others who are too far right to win a seat in today's climate) who are comfortably to the right of Trump.

Anybody who posts even semi-regularly on this subforum is more concerned with political matters than Donald Trump.

yes.

abortions for example. trump is pro abortion. he doesn't give af. i'm guessing he's paid for a abortions for a few of his bangs. but the problem is he needs to cater to his base so he needs to take a more anti stance that people like. dude doesn't have a religious bone in his body, although he did say yesterday on X that after his near death experience, he feels more belief in a higher power. probably made up though to cater to sky person listeners.


by ecriture d'adulte P

We're just back to the weird label. If you guys think these are major national issues, keep talking about them. But republicans are already on the worst 30 year popular vote run in history. Normal people are fine without the federal government getting involved with this and non college white extremists are a shrinking demo.

i agree it's weird for school's to withhold info from parents.


by Luciom P

Wait so you actually agree with violating the constitution, 1a in particular, to push for your preferred ideology???

So it's true that you guys despise the constitution

i dont think referring to someone as a gender they identify is preventing you from practicing your religion. the religious zealots would have a lot better arguments if they admitted that they just pick and choose which things are religious beliefs that they MUST practice out of their storybook on a whim.

i absolutely believe she should be able to be whatever version of bigot she wants to be on her own. but that stops when it infringes on the rights of others. hers dont supersede.


by Luciom P

California is in the USA

https://www.yahoo.com/news/teacher-refus...

California school district has settled a lawsuit with a teacher who says she was fired over her religious beliefs after she refused to use students’ preferred pronouns, attorneys say.

“The District claimed ... Ms. Tapia’s social media posts were racist, offensive, disrespectful, and mocking towards individuals based upon their sexual orientation,” the lawsuit says.

The district went on to accuse Tapia of “proselytizing during P.E. class,” as well as refusing to call students by their preferred pronouns, the suit says.

In late September 2022, the lawsuit says Tapia received a “Notice of Unprofessional Conduct,” wherein the district listed directives she must follow in order to keep her job. Along with using students’ preferred pronouns, this included allowing students to use the bathroom that matches with their gender identity and not discussing the Bible with her students, according to the lawsuit.

Shockingly, her misconduct runs far deeper than "refusing to use students' preferred pronouns". I cannot believe Luciom would deceive us so!

by Luciom P

Wait so you actually agree with violating the constitution, 1a in particular, to push for your preferred ideology???

So it's true that you guys despise the constitution

Not speaking on behalf of these libs; they will surely disagree with what I'm about to say, but I personally do not give much of a **** about the Constitution. It's a fairly morally upstanding document relative to its time, but that's as far as I care about it. Both conservatives and liberals irrationally worship this thing.


by ecriture d'adulte P

We're just back to the weird label. If you guys think these are major national issues, keep talking about them. But republicans are already on the worst 30 year popular vote run in history. Normal people are fine without the federal government getting involved with this and non college white extremists are a shrinking demo.

they'd have a much better chance with the trans sports angle for drumming up normie support. although as we've seen recently they can't help themselves from going overboard and transvestigating any woman they personally don't find attractive which just brings them back to being extremely weird.


by Luciom P

Lol

Americans’ reported willingness to pay a carbon fee reveals the complicated politics of carbon pricing. Less than half of Americans would pay even $1 per month, but the average willingness to pay across the entire adult population is about $36 per month, up from $31 last year. The average is driven by the quarter of respondents who are willing to pay $100 or more per month. Still, Americans’ willingness to pay for climate po

People don’t want to pay for the military either but they happy to have it and knows they have to pay for it.
Come to think of it , what people loves to pay for ?
Medicare ?
Education?
Gaz ?
Houses ?
People just want everything free and let others pay for it…
The Internet is good example of that , click click click .

So your arguments doesn’t add up to much of anything .


by Karl_TheOG_Marx P


Not speaking on behalf of these libs; they will surely disagree with what I'm about to say, but I personally do not give much of a **** about the Constitution. It's a fairly morally upstanding document relative to its time, but that's as far as I care about it. Both conservatives and liberals irrationally worship this thing.

meh. i mean, i care about it in the fact that it's a document of historical significance and has some decent ideals. but it was written by and for white slave owners that just happened to be born white and wealthy enough to have a say. the founding fathers weren't any smarter than any other set of property owning white dudes. it should probably be rewritten every 50 years or so rather than doing mental gymnastics to pretend that the old white guys would have thought about people owning rocket launchers.


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