Climate Change - increasingly horrible disasters loom

Climate Change - increasingly horrible disasters loom

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there is so much out there about this - I don't really need to provide a lot of sources - a quick google search will find you thousands of links

of course there are the climate change deniers

and there are those who say what little we can do won't be nearly enough

just one link:

from the article:


"Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree*: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. "



couldn't resist one more link - story about Siberia, one of the coldest places on earth where there is human habitation - they now face 100 degree days and multiple wildfires caused by them

https://eos.org/articles/siberian-heat-w....

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18 July 2021 at 08:52 AM
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by Luciom P

I don't crop anything I literally copy pasted it from the article I linked myself.

The article itself claims science shows it's mostly from the increased CO2 but ofc science doesn't matter when you don't agree with it.

Higher CO2 concentration in the atmosphere makes plant grow more. A lot more. Even if less water is available.

Which other than meaning that desertification isn't happening in aggregate worldwide at all (rather the opposite is),

“If CO2 fertilization was the determining factor in regreening here, it would happen everywhere in a region, but it does not,” he says. Instead, the greening stops abruptly at the border with Nigeria, where farmers show little interest in nurturing trees.

Evans agrees that the exceptional greening his study found in southern Niger is probably related to farmer regeneration of trees. And he says that Indian farmers too have played an important role. In arid states such as Gujarat, they are pumping underground water to irrigate crops on once-barren land. The resulting increase in soil moisture shows up as greening, Indra Tripathi, a water-resource engineer at the Indian Institute of Technology in Gandhinagar, Gujarat, concluded in a study published in March

This is literally from the article.
It has several paragraphs about farming and environment policies.
I agree that CO2 has an impact, just that you are overspinning it to say more CO2= good , which I guess is helping your view that we should burn more fuel.

edit: one can only hope we adapt as well as plants , amirite?


Here* in that article was about that specific part of Niger jfc, stop lying.

They are saying "a bit of the greening is from this", most is from the CO2


Where plants do good we do good, we eat them and our livestock eats them ffs, which is why the previous claim was "oh my god we are going to suffer because climate change means disasters for agriculture", now it's "poor beetles in the desert how can we deal with the fact there will be less of them"


I'd never argue against CO2 being the limiting reagent in the chemical equation for photosynthesis.

Yeah, the plants that have access to all the necessary chemicals needed to undergo photosynthesis are going to do better in a CO2-rich environment. We call that a "greenhouse" colloquially. Unless they just burn up...

Now go study a hardiness-zone map. Are all plants going to thrive with the temperature increases?

https://www.ars.usda.gov/oc/dof/growing-...


Water is good. That means more water is better. I am very smart.


Northwest Passage could eventually make the Panama Canal obsolete
as a shipping route due to climate change and the melting of Arctic ice.


by steamraise P

Northwest Passage could eventually make the Panama Canal obsolete
as a shipping route due to climate change and the melting of Arctic ice.

The naval war games that will take place between North America and Russia, when ALL the arctic ice disappears, are going to be really fun too!

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Russia going to win


by NLOmahaHL P

The naval war games that will take place between North America and Russia, when ALL the arctic ice disappears, are going to be really fun too!

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Russia going to win

I don't know Canada could send out their naval fleet ( If there is wind )


Take care out there @Luciom. Lots of the type of weather around that you think is a positive change.



I'll miss Venezia


by King Spew P

I'll miss Venezia

With the MOSE (the mechanical damn we can put on when needed) Venezia is the safest it has been in centuries vs floods.

Ofc greens are now claiming that affects the lagoon ecosystem (you can never win against them, ever).


by jalfrezi P

Take care out there @Luciom. Lots of the type of weather around that you think is a positive change.


Ye it never flooded in Italy, it's a recent change (jfc how do you guys even woke up from bed )


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