Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.

This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.

Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.

Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.

So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.

Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.

So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.

We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.

Thanks.

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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by Bubble_Balls P

I wasn’t trying to open a philosophical discussion. Just pointing out that neither of you had defined a pretty nebulous term. I have no idea what either of you actually mean, despite you both speaking very authoritatively about it.

It helps that this is like the 10th time Craig is pulling his identity/self schtick


by Bubble_Balls P

I wasn’t trying to open a philosophical discussion. Just pointing out that neither of you had defined a pretty nebulous term. I have no idea what either of you actually mean, despite you both speaking very authoritatively about it.

Welcome to the fog of morality. It’s called a moral struggle for a reason. Trying to bring it back into the rational comfort zone by constantly demanding definitions is to fail.

You are allowed to try to deny the moral struggle, but I’m not going to pretend like I can’t see through all the frauds especially on this trans issue regarding minors.


by coordi P

A Wiki is a neutral battlefield.

lolz your snippet was not from wiki, go take a look yourself

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Sing...


by rickroll P

lolz your snippet was not from wiki, go take a look yourself

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Sing...

Luciom called it a "wiki written by people who agree with me"

Turns out it was just an AI summary. Even better?


That entire thing is a pretty good joke.


Wait, where did rick's joke go?


by rickroll P

lolz your snippet was not from wiki, go take a look yourself

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Sing...

It actually was from the wiki, just a slightly old cached version. In a bizarre coincidence the phrase was added yesterday and removed again earlier today, all before this was brought up in this thread.

Incidentally it would be good if this whole derail could be moved to the trans thread.


d2_e4 - My friend with alcoholic potential said 5-6 bottles of wine was actually nothing for him.

If you gave him the entire day, he said 10-11+ bottles of wine easy. I've seen him down an entire 48% alcohol whiskey bottle at a wedding + other drinks so I believe it.


I think we can confirm that this dude is in the absolute elite percentile of alcoholism. Not even a Russian with all his alcoholic might could match this.


by Tien P

d2_e4 - My friend with alcoholic potential said 5-6 bottles of wine was actually nothing for him.

If you gave him the entire day, he said 10-11+ bottles of wine easy. I've seen him down an entire 48% alcohol whiskey bottle at a wedding + other drinks so I believe it.


I think we can confirm that this dude is in the absolute elite percentile of alcoholism. Not even a Russian with all his alcoholic might could match this.

Yeah that's some crazy ****. Alcohol poisoning territory. Drop me out.


by Didace P

That entire thing is a pretty good joke.


Wait, where did rick's joke go?

ninja deleted it because i figured it'd just derail this off topic even further when the focus here should be on objective modding not based on picking winners based on political ideology


by Tien P

If you gave him the entire day, he said 10-11+ bottles of wine easy.

In addition to being an incredible amount of alcohol, that's 6000-7000 calories before you take a single bite of food.


by Tien P

d2_e4 - My friend with alcoholic potential said 5-6 bottles of wine was actually nothing for him.

If you gave him the entire day, he said 10-11+ bottles of wine easy. I've seen him down an entire 48% alcohol whiskey bottle at a wedding + other drinks so I believe it.


I think we can confirm that this dude is in the absolute elite percentile of alcoholism. Not even a Russian with all his alcoholic might could match this.

Oh, and also, I'm pretty sure your man has realised his potential. Sounds like he is fully kinetic.


by Rococo P

In addition to being an incredible amount of alcohol, that's 6000-7000 calories before you take a single bite of food.

It's inhuman, I think I met the elite of the elite of drinkers.

by d2_e4 P

Oh, and also, I'm pretty sure your man has realised his potential. Sounds like he is fully kinetic.

When he hangs out with me we barely drink because I just don't want to enable that alcoholism. So I have 1 drink max, and if I don't drink he doesn't either.

When he goes to big events, its all out unfortunately.


Yo d2_e4, years ago when we e-argued I made fun of your drinking habit and I'm glad you are sober now.


Was more of an ******* back then so didn't care, wanted to apologize now for doing that.


by Tien P

Yo d2_e4, years ago when we e-argued I made fun of your drinking habit and I'm glad you are sober now.


Was more of an ******* back then so didn't care, wanted to apologize now for doing that.

Lol it's fine, I'm not bothered by that. Also, I don't remember it, so was probably drunk 😀


by Tien P

It's inhuman, I think I met the elite of the elite of drinkers.

When he hangs out with me we barely drink because I just don't want to enable that alcoholism. So I have 1 drink max, and if I don't drink he doesn't either.

When he goes to big events, its all out unfortunately.

wtf, what kind of alcoholic doesn't drink when his friends don't, and need big events to go big.
Doesn't sound like the worst alcoholic to me.


Just sounds like a big drinker to me, not an alcoholic.


Yep. Aloholics drink when they get up. Often before.

fwiw 10-11 bottles of wine is way more than a bottle of 48% whisky. Who hasn't done a bottle of whisky?


by chezlaw P

Yep. Aloholics drink when they get up. Often before.

fwiw 10-11 bottles of wine is way more than a bottle of 48% whisky. Who hasn't done a bottle of whisky?

A normal bottle of whisky is a little less than 4 bottles of normal wine.

I drink a lot but i never did either, unless you count 4 bottles of wine in like 10 hours in super-long italian marriages


A bottle and a half of whisky was about my limit, as I discovered once many years ago. A bit over my limit in fact, as I had to be carried home.

A bottle of whiskey is about 12 doubles and a bottle of wine is the equivalent of at least 3 doubles depending on strength, and I'm calling shenanigans on anyone drinking 10 bottles of wine in a session (eating is cheating).


The claim was an entire day.


Well that's completely different. Who among us hasn't spent all day in the pub from opening to closing and consumed ridiculous quantities of alcohol punctuated by food?

Or in the days before all day opening, continued after 3.30pm with cans around someone's flat to get you through until 5.30pm?


by chezlaw P

The claim was an entire day.

In a whole day you sweat it out some, you digest some, you can balance water intake to suffer consequences less and so on


Drinking water with it now? Guys sounds a total lightweight.


by jalfrezi P

Drinking water with it now? Guys sounds a total lightweight.

Not "with it", but later.

Like you have alcohol during lunch, go to the beach, run around play volley go in the water swim around go out drink a ton of water sweat take the sun and so on.

Then at sunset you are fully reset for caipirinha or whatever. I mean iw ould never count the alcohol you got at lunch as part of the max allotment


Different people can have wildly different tolerances to alcohol, and regular heavy drinking can build up one's tolerance to levels that appear superhuman to casual drinkers. That said, being an "alcoholic" is almost always about alcohol consumption affecting one's life in negative ways rather than how much alcohol they actually consume. Some people can go out and have 10 pints and have a good time and be fine the next day, others have a couple of pints, go home, beat the wife, and call in sick for work in the morning. The latter type has much more of an "alcohol problem" than the former.


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